Tourney: EHBPC2010 Geneva Qualifiers 11.04.2010

This surely has to be open to anyone who wants to enter? I had no idea about the deadline for entering and if I wasn't in La Schmoove and hadn't been put down by Pique already I'd be upset about not getting a chance to play now. There's plenty of time and at least 3-4 more possible teams.

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State a true intent... and start a poll. Gabes alone cant make a decision.

still the case.... where are these teams?

yeah, is there actually a team that has actually missed out?

it's a bit like:
Being on the bus, not pressing the Stop button then having a go at the driver cos he went past your stop

well give people a chance to state that they have missed out. Rather than stopping it now and giving them no chance at all. If there's no one that enter then fine but we'll never know unless there is a chance.

This forum has been the main point of contact for london bike polo...for years.

Gabes can you send out a group text to everyone next time?

please please enter the euros.... come on.

i'm waiting for other teams.

Personally I want to play in the Euros, and I put my name down for a hypothetical team if that counts.

Just for clarity, 5 or 6 people messaged me or expressed interested in the place I registered as a hypothetical team. Wayne added himself after telling me he couldn't travel to European tournaments this summer which has confused me. The lineup is totally up in the air as far as I'm concerned.

We went through this debate last year, but I still maintain that tourney practice is crucial to develop London players (all of us), and that we should therefore make all our tournies, including qualies, as inclusive as possible.

and who, exactly, is this excluding?

I'm disinclined to agree chucker. The Euro qualifiers is not the same as any other tournament that we hold, it is purely to determine, in the case of this year, the four best teams in London who can go and represent us.

I agree totally that tournament play is important for teams development but in this case I personally do not feel that it is appropriate. We are aware of who the top x teams in London are, do you think that playing a new team put together purely to play this qualifier will benefit Malice in any way?

I'd say it would make more sense to keep the qualifiers limited to the teams who actually stand a chance of being able to qualify. Additionally, this means that it will be easier to get through all required games in the given time frame.

I would actually like to play in the qualifiers, but as I don't have a team prepped and ready with our names on the list a full 6 months prior to the actual event I haven't really got a chance have I ?

Just seems that we could cap the qualies at say 15 teams for logistical purposes and let a couple of other teams in on a wild card closer to the date.

#notactuallythatbotheredasi'llrefanyway

Would anyone be opposed to organising a mini London team tournament around the same time so that the Euro qualifiers could be kept as just that and the teams who just want to play in a tournament would also have the chance?

a) 6 months? qualis has to be before May 1st
b) It's not a throw-in tourney.
c) Look at other sports, do people just throw teams together for continental tournaments and expect to play?

do the qualifiers as soon as we can - that way people can make travel plans / or make alternative summer plans if they're not going!

a) 6 months? qualis has to be before May 1st
b) It's not a throw-in tourney.
c) Look at other sports, do people just throw teams together for continental tournaments and expect to play?

Euro's are July, no ?

Agreed it's not a throw in tourney, but there's no reason a new team can't enter, or are we restricted to established league only teams ?

There would be a few players around who's teams haven't entered who could make a good tournament team, same as last year.

or are we restricted to established league only teams ?

of course we're not - otherwise we should have just taken the league results!!

where are these teams?

so bored of this argument.

hypothetical bullshit, someone show some genuine intent to register another team, or zip it.

the whole 'i would like a chance to play in the euros' argument is fairly moot to anyone who dosn't play in the league, go to tourneys in other places, play regularly, play on a serious basis or indeed have 2 other people to play with.
If you don't play on a serious basis than your 'chance' to play in the euros is slim. This isn't being non-inclusive, it's reality and called 'having a word with yourself' it's nice to have lots of teams in tournaments, but this is a tournament by default and is inclusive by default. Don't make it harder for 'those' however many, who think they do have a chance, just because you want to play in a 'tournament'.

hypothetical bullshit, someone show some genuine intent to register another team, or zip it.

ha...

In the case of lockett (or anybody else)... id start a thread/send out a pm to other keen players minus a team, get a team together.

start a poll... can my team be included in the quallies...

...register team to play. dun.

Its still January! I haven't seen my team this year. I doubt they've read these threads yet. Maybe Los Conos won't be able to make it. If not, I'd like to form a team. Black Rebel hadn't decided what they were doing until apparently it was too late.

Lets not assume everyone hangs out on the internet all day!

sick of this argument, let's vote on whether or not more people can enter the qualifiers.

https://www.lfgss.com/thread36434.html
7 day poll.

To me, the issue here is that London makes this decision together and that one or two people don't push their weight around. Geneva's letter states that we decide teams how ever we want. The poll before was indeed just to get an idea of numbers, not a hardfast decision. This was also in Geneva's letter.
The only vote london has agreed on so far is that Gabes is our reporteR. His job is to report back our decision, basically he writes a letter to Clement saying "london decided this..." . Job done.

Gabes, a poll in these matters, that is well publicised, will always be the right decision. Good job.

Just one more thing about the qualifying tournament:

It doesn't decide which is the best team in London, it just decides who qualifies to Euros. The best team in London is probably BAD, based on their results over the last 12 months.

Given that the Euros are a high standard, high pressure two day knock-out tournament, the most appropriate way to choose the teams (if we do want to choose 4 London teams to do well) would be a high-pressure, high-standard one or two day knock-out tournament.

Round - robin is not the same, neither is the idea of having a team play their games BEFORE the rest of the teams (knowing results of other games can lead to stitch-ups between teams).

Tourney play requires that you are able to sustain intensity of game-play across a day, where as league play requires that you sustain intensity across days, weeks, months - very different.

no much time to post in my break...

I completly agree with Brendan and Bill