Foffa Bikes

You can light a fart for all the good it will do you.
I am off for a bath.
I always said this Darknet would lead to trouble...

I was going to tell you to stop being so pompous; till I read the second half of your post. Now I am going to tell you to stop being so pompous and self-pitying.
Foffa seems to have done everything he can to rectify the problems he had; in other words he listened to and responded to his critics. What good are your principles if they just lead to a new bike shop having a needlessly hard time?

This ^

Thanks Will.

I thought she had a unipack anyway? :-P

repped.
;)

This isn't a question about Foffa's right to exist, this is a question about the public at large's access to publically generated information in a public forum.

I'll gladly defend Foffa from the petty bitchiness of this place if I have the time. But thats not what we are talking about. There was a kind of timeline, it kinda went like this:

1) Foffa made fairly shit bikes
2) The forum noticed point 1
3) The forum did what forums are good at and took the piss.
4) Genuine issues were flagged up.
5) Danni read the forums discussion
6) Danni took action based on reading the forum.
7) Foffa relsea a new frame
8) The forum likes the new frame and foffa alot more than it did before.
9) Overall attitude is positive

With the thread being here this process is hidden from the public. This information and opinion is censored to make it easier on someone who we have no responsibility to as an independant forum. Someone who, in fact, we have a responsibility to crticise as an independant forum.

And the decision to make this act at least appears to have been made by someone who does infact have a vested interest in this someone and this buisness. I've remembered what its called, its called corruption. Now it might not be, it might be a huge coincidence, Wicksie may geuinely believe what shes done is right despite being given a free frame and a pat on the back from Danni. But in cafes like EAT you aren't even allowed to serve your family to prote t you from accustations of corruption.

What am I saying here?
Three points really:

1) I don't agree with moving this thread here. Not only is it not fair on other shops, its also wrong to movea thread of criticism and bitching in a forum famed for its criticsm and bitching out of the public eye.

3) The protection of a buisness' financial security is not our concern, and furthermore ranks below provinding lots of indvidual opinion along side a evidence based history to the public. people have more of a right to know what happened (see lame chart above) and what others think of Foffa than we have a right to protect an (almost) unaffiliated enterprise's future income.

2) The person that made this decision, is affiliated with the shop in question and rightly or wrongly it stinks of corruption.

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But like I said I'm just a stupid hipster working in a shit shop that everyone either dislikes or thinks is a joke. So you don't really need to worry what I think, 'cos no one ever seems to agree with me.

But like I said I'm just a stupid hipster working in a shit shop that everyone either dislikes or thinks is a joke. So you don't really need to worry what I think, 'cos no one ever seems to agree with me.

I'm not gonna say a word

Say something pisti.

what about this http://www.lfgss.com/thread44715.html ? insinuating that an independent shop's employees smoke crack. should that be moved? what about threads slating and applauding 14/tfg/blb/condor?

Fuck me, this is hardly Carter-Ruck is it.

dont you mean Carter Fuck, shurely shome mistake.
(astute readers congratulate yourselves for knowing my deliberate allusion, keep it satirical)

that's enough.

Harry if you're going to insult me and get personal then get your facts straight.

They are.
You a mod. You are sponsored to some extent by foffa. You've used your position to defend your interest.

It's sad that people are so angry about this which is ironic because it's precisely why I've moved it away from the public.[/quote[

Because people shouldn't be exposed to actual opinion on this place, just petty in jokes and insults aimed at people who are new?

[Quote]People getting carried away, having bravdo when they're behind a computer and bitching away because we're here to talk about bikes, but I've said it before and I'lll say it again, this is someones lively hood ffs.
Carried away would be set fire to cars and protesting at parliament, or even believing that anyway one will ever agree with me. I actually have an opinion. I believe something that happened is wrong. I'm going to tell people my opinion on the matter whether they would like me too or not, because I believe in the principals I'm arguing for more than I want to finish watching the latest episode of Wallander on Iplayer. And if you want to dismiss me for being brave behind a keyboard you can. I'd say we have the discussion in real life, but that would make me just sound like a keyboard warrior. But we really can if you want?

Don't let it worry you so much, it's no big deal.
Postmodernism is over and I have a vested research intrest in models of rhizomatic pedagogy (things like forums), so I'm sorry, but actually it is a big deal, at least to me, and if you think its a trivial thing and I think its really not then surely I should get my way because I believe in it more? Or does life not work like that?

Obviously people are entitled to their oppinions, but at the end of the day, this forum gets carried away, talks a lot of guff, takes the piss a lot, and the outside world and people whom are trying to make a living, don't need this.
Get over it people.
You are right, they don't need it, but they have to live with it as long as this remains a capitalist democracy (I am not remotely marxist by the way - I really quite free, which is the political bias behind my argument if you care).

I'm not having a dig for the sake of it, and I'm not having a go at you as a human Wicksie, I'm attacking your actions, and I hope you aren't overly offended by it, although a little offence is mandatory.
I'm bored of the convivial back slapping and piss taking thats taken over this place. Its nice to have something to actually want to type about, even if it is caused by a great injustice.

I can't even be bothered to read your rants anymore.
wac.

My point is you google Foffa bikes, it calls them shit. They sorted themselves out, but people are very unlikey to read the whole thing because of pointless rants, so it does needless harm to someone's business. This is apparently my fault, so I've done something about it.
I'm going to bed, I'm done with this thread.
Again, get over it.

Foffa ROCK!!!!!

if you googled*

They are.
You a mod.

No. You can move threads that you have created. You do not need moderator powers.

No. You can move threads that you have created. You do not need moderator powers.

how?

I can't even be bothered to read your rants anymore.
wac.

READ: *I'm going to dismiss what you say as a rant so I don't have to engague with the content and try and win a discussion. *

• Thanks Wicksie, realy honourable.
  
  
  

My point is you google Foffa bikes, it calls them shit. They sorted themselves out, but people are very unlikey to read the whole thing because of pointless rants, so it does needless harm to someone business. This is apparently my fault, so I've done something about it.
I know it is, I've spent alot of time writing why I think you are totaly wrong. Both in terms of stance and how it looks given your connection.

I'm going to bed, I'm done with this thread.
Again, get over it.

READ: *I'm a mod, shut the fuck up and move on, I don't have to argue with you, I am your superior, do as I say, you have no power. I hate your children.
*- Again, thanks, appreciate the respect.

I'm not gonna say a word

Promises, promises...

To be fair to joni this thread and related events in real life went a bit further than the general bitching about blb...

Having said that I do think it appears as abuse of power joni, whether it is or isn't... At the very least you should have asked v or hippy to move it... [edit] ah if you moved it here because you are the thread creator then that's fine... And harry does sound silly if you aren't a mod abusing power :) [/edit]

And most importantly why is it in this sub section of darknet that is supposed to be for talking about Lfgss?!

how?

"Thread Tools"

I'm with WIll on this, I think

No. You can move threads that you have created. You do not need moderator powers.

Ah, fair enough.
In that case sub all refernces to "Mod" to "person with power over the location of this thread" Not quite as catchy, but meh.

I'm going to ask VB to move it back then.
Although he probably won't.

Cheers for getting behind me Marky.. (I know you were talking about Will of the Wigan flavour but I'll take it).

I'm with WIll on this, I think

Big mistake....

I meant TEN YEARS OLDER! I want to go on record here.