Foffa Bikes

To be fair, Danni always seemed nice and takes the criticism on the chin, which is a good trait. I bought the bike in early 2007, so maybe things have changed, as he said.

This hacked2 bloke on the other hand isn't helping.

True, just spent an entertaining hour reading back some of his replies to various threads.

The very same cranksets Foffa Bikes uses are on sale HERE at 13.50 of Your Queens Dorrahs a pop.

Can't be the same, his ones cost £30 apparently.

or is it £25?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320453626189

True, just spent an entertaining hour reading back some of his replies to various threads.

You'd think he would've learnt from the first time around:
https://www.lfgss.com/thread3559.html#post107004

This post from the above thread:

http://www.lfgss.com/post107978-126.html

...supposedly references the original shit storm.

But it says the link is invalid

This post from the above thread:

http://www.lfgss.com/post107978-126.html

...supposedly references the original shit storm.

But it says the link is invalid

Oh, I think I can fix that... it's a special occasion so it's worth the extra effort ;)

The thread was this one: https://www.lfgss.com/thread3464.html

:D

last post on that thread says it all!

Oh, I think I can fix that... it's a special occasion so it's worth the extra effort ;)

The thread was this one: http://www.lfgss.com/thread3464.html

I'm underwhelmed by this supposed 'shitstorm'...

I think the car analogy is a good one.
There is little/no market for 'refurbished' old cars. They are nearly all sold as they are if they have a MOT. Old cars are rarely worth fixing. Any one who has spent money doing up a vintage car (I have) knows it will be worth less than the some of the parts. You make money by stripping not building. The exceptions are truly classic marques where rarity increases the value, even these have to be original or restored - never refurbished with cheap parts. Look at any classic car clasified section and see how many cars have a sale price and then the promise of receipts for parts/work of around twice that value.

Same is true for bikes. I just spent a lot on a build using mainly new mid-range parts and some rarish vintage cranks, if I tried to sell it for what I paid (no labour) this forum would have a field day pointing out what they could get for that money. I expect it is worth (second hand) about half what I have paid new. That's life, I didn't do it for money.

I am not criticising the bikes, just the business model.

Maybe the Foffa Prima will be a good one - will it be priced between the Unipak/Create and the Maurice? I wouldn't like to try to compete with these without some seriously cheap foriegn labour and bulk buying power though.

those cranks look gash, also some of the geometries look.. bizarre

if the bikes were £200 I'd say theres no problem

You'd think he would've learnt from the first time around:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread3559.html#post107004

Yeah, read it already with some nachos and beer on the side.. Good entertainment FTW

Yeah, read it already with some nachos and beer on the side.. Good entertainment FTW

beer at 11 in the morning?

not really, morning cuppa Joe tbh

i see. i have no food.

beware of his "fixed wheel" , i got one off him and it turned out to be a single-speed thread with a sprocket and lockring glued on...
i'm aware of the whole suicide hub/track hub debate but the thing that bothers me is that he didn't tell me as a customer that this is the set-up he uses ..

[ame="http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=51022"]Cyclechat[/ame] guys don`t seem too enthusiastic about the bikes either. Go figure..

Calling a pre-built bike with cheap parts 'bespoke' = fail
Selling a fixed gear bike with a suicide hub = fail
Justifying price by saying a crank costs £30, then selling them on eBay for £25 = fail

The very same cranksets Foffa Bikes uses are on sale HERE at 13.50 of Your Queens Dorrahs a pop.

Can't be the same, his ones cost £30 apparently.

or is it £25?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320453626189

Surely they are the same, have a closer look at the pics.

Both appear to have been made of cheese..

RPM was being sarcastic because Mr.Foffa says that they cost him £30

feeling silly at the mo, intrawebz not being my place of preference to sniff out hidden sarcasm..

a good point by RPM though..

I am all for someone making some money on restoring old bikes - thats not the issue here - the whole point of forums like this is to discuss this kind of thing - if you are going to put a product to the consumer, you can expect it to be judged, rated and either praised or dismissed. There are as many threads bigging up guys who build bikes as there are slating them o here.

No one would begrudge anyone putting together a nice machine with decent parts and selling them at a fair price. Thats not the case here.

LFGSS - Saving People From Unipacks Ant Other Crap Since 2007™

the very same cranksets foffa bikes uses are on sale here at 13.50 of your queens dorrahs a pop.

njs?

To be fair, Ed does look like the guy who gets melted in toxic waste in Robocop. Pre-melting, obvs.

njs?

obv.

To be fair, Ed does look like the guy who gets melted in toxic waste in Robocop. Pre-melting, obvs.

I always though he looked a bit more like Simon from Alvin and the Chipmunks... but that may have something to do with the squirrel video.

njs?

obv.

Would not think that Foffa used anything lesser..