Motorcycle and Scooter appreciation

Ah well, I set a PR over Waterloo bridge trying to catch him for a "chat".

You never ride as fast as when you're chasing someone down.

Chap on a motorcycle swerved at me this morning to "punish" me for holding him up, I imagine he didn't intend on hitting me, just passing close enough to impress me with his huge manliness, and to ensure that I would respect his need to go faster than the other traffic in future.

Anyway- I am operating on the assumption that there is nothing to do done in this situation mid-swerve other than hoping the motorcyclist doesn't actually want to hit you?

i.e. 250kg of bike plus 90kg of rider is going to win an argument with 7kg of bike and 80kg of rider.

Is this the sort of thing they have to cope with in the car thread?

So letter has come through. Fixed penalty, offering me the opportunity to only pay £200 and take 6 points. This was for being stopped for a license check, satisfying the check, THEN the Po Po coming back to charge me with driving without insurance, due to not having commuting on my insurance policy.

Get legal advice, or just take the hit?

Get legal advice if you don't regularly commute. 6 points is a lot, its gonna hurt your insurance.

WTF?

Who says you were riding to work?

You were riding to the cafe, you then went to work after.

Find out if your insurance company even has a defined commuting option. Some say Social Domestic Pleasure or SDP & Business, others say SDP, SDPC, SDPC&B.

Legal advice - deffo!

They stopped me right outside my work, and I admitted to riding to work - first time (car was in garage)

I added commuting later that day to insurance policy

Have you spoken to your insurers about this, or got a 'friend to enquire on your behalf'? I have a feeling that a one-off, like this, would be covered as it isn't a routine use of the bike. If the garage can back up the fact that your car was with them that day, even better.

Just say you were going on a trip after work, I often go on after-work rides and it makes more sense to ride to work, it doesn't mean I'm regularly commuting on it, they have to factor in the odd ride to work ffs

Just ask your insurer if you were covered against third party claims while you were riding to work on that occasion. If they say yes, dispute it, if they say no roll over and pay up.

They stopped me right outside my work, and I admitted to riding to work - first time (car was in garage)

I added commuting later that day to insurance policy

Sorry, you might not want to hear this but you told the Police you were commuting, which you were. And your insurance policy doesn't cover you for commuting because you didn't take it in when you got your policy.

You were caught doing something that you shouldn't have been. If you were to be involved in an incident while commuting you would not be covered and this would open all sorts of issues for you and for whomever else was involved.

The Police were right to level what they have at you because legally you're out of order. If you had have said to them "I'm meeting a mate for a coffee, I'm not working today" then they probably would have just waved you on. But you didn't.

Is it worth weeks/months of your time to sort this out? Or is £200 not worth it to you? That's the real question.

it's the 6 points that is the kicker - I was banned for 6 months in 2011 for speeding (under 12 points totting up) and that was bad enough for what it has done to my insurance premiums - this is just the fucking biscuit

Is this the sort of thing they have to cope with in the car thread?

Could you clarify what it is that you are asking?

Please ignore me -I'm having lots of 'self-righteous nob' moments lately.

Could you clarify what it is that you are asking?

I interpreted it as "do people post on the car appreciation thread every time they get cut up by a car?"

I think it's a fair point being made, but I think Dammit was less 'complaining about a motorcyclist to other motorcycle owners', and more asking if there was some inside knowledge he could gleam from the contributors to this thread to get one over the next cunt that gives him grief. I think people don't do that on the car thread as it's a given that one man & one bike isn't ever going to beat one man & one car, but one man & one motorcycle, maybe there's an outside chance. Not that I'm proposing anyone go out and start pushing over motorcyclists with gay abandon.

...unless they're Dominos delivery mopeds ;)

I think it's a fair point being made, but I think Dammit was less 'complaining about a motorcyclist to other motorcycle owners', and more asking if there was some inside knowledge he could gleam from the contributors to this thread to get one over the next cunt that gives him grief. I think people don't do that on the car thread as it's a given that one man & one bike isn't ever going to beat one man & one car, but one man & one motorcycle, maybe there's an outside chance. Not that I'm proposing anyone go out and start pushing over motorcyclists with gay abandon.

Saadat has the right of it here, I was simply interested in whether I was 100% going to lose in this situation, or whether there was an achilles heel known only to motorcyclists that might even things up a bit, as unlikely as that sounds.

Saadat has the right of it here, I was simply interested in whether I was 100% going to lose in this situation, or whether there was an achilles heel known only to motorcyclists that might even things up a bit, as unlikely as that sounds.

I would always council Zen-like calm on the roads, as two wrongs don't make a right.

If I didn't, though, I'd say engine kill-switch. Usually big, red and accessible on the bars. Just make sure you're in position to get the fuck out of there pretty swiftly afterwards, as you've only got maybe 5 seconds grace before you've got a very angry biker all over you.

Ignition keys give you a much better chance, and are usually really accessible in an "emergency"

Sounds a bit challenging to access when the guys swerving into you.

Hey ho.

I think if someone switched the engine kill switch i'd only be miffed - if someone took my keys my first instinct would be attempted theft so I'd go batshit crazy.

In case you ever get hassled by a race car:

Turning this switch will kill the ignition