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• #152
Karma.
you better be nice to drivers tomorrow DJ
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• #153
It just gets better.
This morning the old bill were at the same spot, pulling over cyclists and fining them.
Earlier this week I was told of an interesting get out. You can be fined for riding your bike over the line - or even wheeling it. However if you are carrying your bike you are merely a pedestrian and do not have to follow the lights. Once over the stop line its as if you are joining the traffic from the kerb.
So I got off my bike, lifted it over my head and walked over the line waving at the police shouting "Good Morning Officers!" Got back on the bike and pedalled off.
I did not have the time to get my refund cheque out of my bag and wave it at them.
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• #154
It just gets better.
This morning the old bill were at the same spot, pulling over cyclists and fining them.
Earlier this week I was told of an interesting get out. You can be fined for riding your bike over the line - or even wheeling it. However if you are carrying your bike you are merely a pedestrian and do not have to follow the lights. Once over the stop line its as if you are joining the traffic from the kerb.
So I got off my bike, lifted it over my head and walked over the line waving at the police shouting "Good Morning Officers!" Got back on the bike and pedalled off.
I did not have the time to get my refund cheque out of my bag and wave it at them.
*Sniff! I love a happy ending.... *sobs
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• #155
Why bother? Just stop for a few seconds. Do you really want to risk being arrested given your employers? Just stop. Simples.
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• #156
but there was a chance for me to be a righteous, antagonistic cunt
i am utterly compelled to do this, i wish not but cannot control the impulse
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• #157
Was I the only one that noticed the six or so Police/PCS officers on High Street Ken this morning. With what appeared to be a camera crew filming them doing there stuff?
(Also I noted an unusual ethnic/gender mix compared to most police "persons" you see about.)
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• #158
no, because i stopped, got off my bike and carried it over the line, whilst waving at the police, so clearly you were not the only one
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• #160
Well personal experience would tell me that there tend to be less of them and no camera crew.
But hey fuck it, I should have absorbed that information from your posts by osmosis! My bad!
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• #161
VB on fire, dishing it out to everyone
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• #162
Something or other (but not very bright)
You had two different sentences, one was a question without the correct punctuation, "Was I the only one that noticed the six or so Police/PCS officers on High Street Ken this morning."
There should have been a question mark and I was addressing that point.
Nothing for you to absorb by osmosis.
I am sure a few other people (who were getting fined also noticed them, though sadly too late so they could not do the walk 'n wave.
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• #163
Why bother? Just stop for a few seconds. Do you really want to risk being arrested given your employers? Just stop. Simples.
I have no idea who you work for, but now I'm imagining you're some kind of CIA spook? Provoking international dipsutes via RLJ?
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• #164
Not far from the truth, I may have to kill you.
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• #165
You'll have to catch me first - and I sometimes skip reds too...
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• #166
You needn't have lifted your bike up, if you get off and wheel the bike across the line then all you are doing is walking over the line. When you are walking you are a pedestrian. Pedestrians do not have to stop for red lights.
Although it does add a certain amount of comic value, hoisting the bike up above your head like a trophy whilst offering a cheery greeting.
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• #167
Don't tease him, he has a harpoon built into the top tube... he doesn't need to catch you, just get you within range.
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• #168
Earlier this week I was told of an interesting get out. You can be fined for riding your bike over the line - or even wheeling it. However if you are carrying your bike you are merely a pedestrian and do not have to follow the lights. Once over the stop line its as if you are joining the traffic from the kerb.
Utter gobshite
You needn't have lifted your bike up, if you get off and wheel the bike across the line then all you are doing is walking over the line. When you are walking you are a pedestrian. Pedestrians do not have to stop for red lights.
This, if you are not using the mechanisms of the bicycle to propel yourself, then you are not a cyclist. This is why cyclists are not required to carry bicycles on the footpath (perhaps from bike racks to the kerbside) or along designated footways. Traversing signs and signals on the carriageway is no different, regardless of what an ill-informed officer of the law may tell you.
However, I would advise caution on flaunting circumvention of the law to officers, they may decide to check if your pockets have anything of interest in them, after seeing to a couple of other people first.
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• #169
Could be wrong but I was under the impression that you were meant to carry bikes (technically) whilst on pavements rather than pushing themalong. Obvioulsy it's one of those enourmously pedantic points that one would have to be really annoying to try to take advatange of in front of the rozzers... oh, wait... ;)
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• #170
Nah, there was a test case. wheeling your bicycle=being a pedestrian. No need to carrry it.
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• #171
Ahha Where does the law leave people who wear wheelies?
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• #172
wheelies = protester = shoot on sight
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• #173
lets be clear its shot to disable so they can be interrogated at a later date in a Jordanian Jail, unless they showed signs of excessive force.. or 180 turns.. or little gay jumps.. then its 6 in the head
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• #174
So just Dismounting and pushing is fine?
What excuse for stop and search could they give?
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• #175
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'CARRY THAT BIKE!'
Don't fall for the piffle that you have to carry a bicycle when on a footway or pedestrian crossing. Anyone pushing a bicycle is a "foot-passenger" (Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441) and is not "riding" it (Selby). In his judgment in the Court of Appeal in Crank v Brooks, Waller LJ said: "In my judgment a person who is walking across a pedestrian crossing pushing a bicycle, having started on the pavement on one side on her feet and not on the bicycle, and going across pushing the bicycle with both feet on the ground so to speak is clearly a 'foot passenger'. If for example she had been using it as a scooter by having one foot on the pedal and pushing herself along, she would not have been a 'foot passenger'. But the fact that she had the bicycle in her hand and was walking does not create any difference from a case where she is walking without a bicycle in her hand."
Winner! Excellent.