The bickering and feuding... it stops

Ashe - maybe your protestations would carry a little more credibility if you stayed clear of inferred violence, a trick you've tried too many times already…

A good point Wayne, and one that I shall heed.

For what its worth, my threat did not mean physical violence at all. It regarded a more than forceful verbal reply. In my teens I could cuss almost anyone to tears, and this was in the the southern states of the US, and in the Caribbean. I left that sort of "banter" back in my childhood, but its not as if I've forgotten any of it.

I can say confidently, and with quite a degree of shame, that when I cuss someone out, its nasty, and rather OnOne-esque. I really should grow up in the face of (anticipated) provocation. I apologise for the perception that I imply violence. It wasn't my intention at all. I had (maybe very wrongly) anticipated a very strong verbal/written backlash against my view on this recent matter, and was attempting to head this off at the pass.

Again Wayne, you are right.

do everything possible to make public that that fictional girlfriend has dumped you.

Ooh, I missed that. Link pls?

But E****/B*** doesn't exist... Does she/he? Redundant debate IMO...

Meh... puts thread on ignore

And with that, you've totally undermined your position - just like I knew you would. When confronted with a rational discussion, you go and do the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and singing. You're running away - somebody confronts you and like any bully, you shit your pants and run. You pathetic little child.

All this posturing and you've just proved you're totally full of shit...

True - that account was deleted at her own request, but even so, she behaved no differently under that handle than she has done under 'Epifania'.

The root of the problem appears to be hearsay, speculation and to be frank, outright lies - not a scrap of cold, hard fact anywhere. The clear absence of any hard evidence - no actually - any evidence at all - of Epifania being aggressive/vindictive/whiney or otherwise would surely prove this?

I'm sorry but I don't have time to sift through this forum finding evidence for you. I saw what I saw and stand by my earlier comments. I count the recipient of the Bella/Epifania/Donut! crap as a friend, as I'm sure many others on here do, and saw how annoyed/pissed off she was with it on a regular basis.

To make out Bella/Epifania is some poor innocent in all this is, quite frankly, bullshit. I, for one, am glad she's gone, assuming she actually exists.

shitting his pants? he's probably having his tea or popped out for a pint of milk.

And with that, you've totally undermined your position - just like I knew you would. When confronted with a rational discussion, you go and do the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and singing. You're running away - somebody confronts you and like any bully, you shit your pants and run. You pathetic little child.

All this posturing and you've just proved you're totally full of shit...

Hilarious, don't be so fucking pompous

I'm sorry but I don't have time to sift through this forum finding evidence for you. I saw what I saw and stand by my earlier comments. I count the recipient of the Bella/Epifania/Donut! crap as a friend, as I'm sure many others on here do, and saw how annoyed/pissed off she was with it on a regular basis.

To make out Bella/Epifania is some poor innocent in all this is, quite frankly, bullshit. I, for one, am glad she's gone, assuming she actually exists.

So you're more than happy to make accusations, but you're not so quick to evidence your claims? How very big of you.

Hilarious, don't be so fucking pompous

Oh come on now - for once someone actually calls someone on the shit they're spouting and their response is to post a picture of a puppy and put the thread on ignore? Not exactly adult behaviour now is it?

neither is riding a brakless fixie on the streets of london.
but who really cares about that shit?

So you're more than happy to make accusations, but you're not so quick to evidence your claims? How very big of you.

I'm so sorry to not be able to provide evidence for you but I do have a 3 day old baby to look after and that takes priority over some self righteous bell end.

amen

Graham sure can be a pain for someone, but I just think that he has never been too far to be banned, at least no more than many other members in other folkloristic polemic engagements.

Personally, and for the record, I've been against banning people, but I have no reason to think nimbhus (not my best mate, as has been apparent for quite some time) has lied, regarding PMs received from Pisti. That's beyond the pale. Pistanator isn't stupid, in fact he is a rather shrewd and a very accurate judge of character. Still, its not right. Surely its one thing to wind someone up in a thread, but its a different story to take your dislike into PMs? Anyway, others can be the judge of this, since maybe I'm not qualified.......having only ever received PMs regarding helping people with stuff.

Meh... puts thread on ignore

Joe, maybe while you're at it, its time for a different avatar? What's the point of so publicly disagreeing with VB's decision? One day he might get very tired of all this shit. We're all anxious when this forum is closed for an upgrade or a fuck-up [its okay VB, we still love you], so what would we do then? No more Tweed Runs? Its just my 2p.

We appear to be taking some important things for granted. As valuable as Pisti might be to some of you, site ethics take precedence.....and VB sets the baseline. Even if we disagree, as I have, on banning, we should respect the site...and its rules. They're not many, but the few that are there should be adhered to. Is that so unreasonable?

I'm so sorry to not be able to provide evidence for you but I do have a 3 day old baby to look after and that takes priority over some self righteous bell end.

Congratulations Andy - and with all due respect, wtf are you doing on here arguing with said bell-ends in the first place?

now, i'd better go and put my 14 month baby to bed. ahem.

And........I'd like a friend like Teenslain, if ever I had need for someone to get my back.

I'm not agreeing with him, but respecting his show of friendship/solidarity.

Oh, excellent, excellent, excellent post Corny. Nail on head.

And with that, you've totally undermined your position - just like I knew you would. When confronted with a rational discussion, you go and do the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and singing. You're running away - somebody confronts you and like any bully, you shit your pants and run. You pathetic little child.

All this posturing and you've just proved you're totally full of shit...

I have got my tea on actually, minted pea soup, I'll need to go and whizz it up in a sec... But I'll be back in a bit... Don't go away, Mook...

Wow, you guys are LOSERS. now i remember why not to venture outside of the bike polo forum.

How's Canada MAX? Cold?

10 degrees and sunny! will, you do all this crap? take more pictures.... hang out at the northgate or something!

I'm like the UN: I have to be here, wearing my white helmet and looking after the women and children, making sure none of them get hurt.

Rwanda

the UN are the ones that get shot at by both sides, right?

@ mooks it's great that you defend epifania if you like her but there's no need to make enemies over it. I have always found her a bit strange and surprised that no one seems to have met her. I have probably met +100 people since I joined and I don't understand why you would want to be on here if you are not interested in meeting people and if you think that people here are so horrible then why stay? I am not defending bullying or saying that things should not be challenged but there are more important things on this forum right now.

VeeVee, I've always found you a bit strange to be honest, but I generally live and let live!

For most of the time I've been a member of this site I haven't lived in London. I don't go to the forum drinks because I don't have much interest in the social side of this site. I've been on a few rides and met up with a few people through buying and selling on the site. That's fine with me - and that's all some people want from this place.

I didn't come here to make friends - so I have no qualms about making enemies - and my friendship with Isabella is more important than this site, hence my speaking out. I personally know Isabella extremely well, and know that the way she's being portrayed by some members is a huge injustice - it's mean-spirited and entirely wrong.

The major issue for me is that there's no rationale for why people have been saying and posting the things that they have. In her time on the forum, Isabella has been perfectly nice. She's got involved in discussions, been respectful and supportive of many people, and has never been antagonistic or aggressive.

My initial post was a challenge for people to identify some kind of behaviour that would justify the way she's being treated. So far all I'm hearing is umming, ahhing and hearsay. I think that says it all.

..Right.

..Right.

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I've booked the boxing ring above the 'Enery Coopah in the Old Kent Road, you bunch of internet hereos can all get up there, put some gloves on and duke it out. Winner gets an LFGSS mouse mat.