Court summons for RLJ

Alright everyone (that paid interest in this case). A whopping 9 months after the incident (after receiving a letter informing me of possibly court summons after 5 months), I got whacked with a £165 fine, which I do believe is just under three times that of a speeding ticket if you were driving a car (excuse me if I'm wrong). Also, the fine is actually £100, and £65 is for 'costs'. Obviously there's no breakdown of what I'm getting for my extra £65 though.

Paid off half, paying the rest off within a month. The charge was dropped from 'wanton or furious cycling' to a mere 'dangerous cycling'.

That is fucked. Next time you're stopped by a motorcycle copper distract them as you hit the kill switch

I got whacked with a £165 fine

Most I was hit with was £120 for keeping untaxed (but insured car) on the residents car park which supposed to be - and it is - outside councils powers and £60 for speeding.
Puts me off cycling that. I'm better off driving.

Most I was hit with was £120 for keeping untaxed (but insured car) on the residents car park which supposed to be - and it is - outside councils powers and £60 for speeding.
Puts me off cycling that. I'm better off driving.

Fixed penalty, if it goes to court it goes up.

PS the council do have powers over publically accessed land, fell fowl of that a few times.

Alright everyone (that paid interest in this case). A whopping 9 months after the incident (after receiving a letter informing me of possibly court summons after 5 months), I got whacked with a £165 fine, which I do believe is just under three times that of a speeding ticket if you were driving a car (excuse me if I'm wrong). Also, the fine is actually £100, and £65 is for 'costs'. Obviously there's no breakdown of what I'm getting for my extra £65 though.

Paid off half, paying the rest off within a month. The charge was dropped from 'wanton or furious cycling' to a mere 'dangerous cycling'.

Some of the costs is to go in to a victims fund i think, and the rest is just in to the ether of the system. Oh and don't ask for a breakdown of costs that just annoys them or pay in pennies or stamps as that really annoys them. Oh and annoying them is bad JuJu.

Alright everyone (that paid interest in this case). A whopping 9 months after the incident (after receiving a letter informing me of possibly court summons after 5 months), I got whacked with a £165 fine, which I do believe is just under three times that of a speeding ticket if you were driving a car (excuse me if I'm wrong). Also, the fine is actually £100, and £65 is for 'costs'. Obviously there's no breakdown of what I'm getting for my extra £65 though.

Paid off half, paying the rest off within a month. The charge was dropped from 'wanton or furious cycling' to a mere 'dangerous cycling'.

You're right not to contest it (i dunno whether you can or not). It really shite and unlucky but risking loosing over a grand for the sake of £165 is just a bad bet.

Alright everyone (that paid interest in this case). A whopping 9 months after the incident (after receiving a letter informing me of possibly court summons after 5 months)

Is this the same as a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) for speeding offences that have to be posted within 14 days of the offence? I don't know.

It might be worth making a query on http://www.pepipoo.com/ , think it was mentioned in the thread above before. Although being for motorists, they might say you deserve everything you got.

Yeah, if it was public land and your car wasn't taxed they would just take it away and crush it.

You were convicted then?

Did you take any of the advice that was offered to you?

Did you offer up a defence?

What about the victim surcharge of £15?

On the face of it could have been £100 fine with a 1/3 max off for an EGP (?)

There must be £15 victim surchage in there somewhere, unless the costs was a 'contribution towards cost of £50 + £15 v/s on grounds of means?

To put into perspective the most you can be fined for being drunk i/c of a bicycle (drunk cycling) is £200 as I recall, which would assume losing a trial, and no costs and no v/s (which you'd have to pay, taking it £215 in practice if you liked it or not).

Lawyers will correct me if my though processes are wrong I'm sure.

Are you a little peeved that you haven't got done for 'wanton or furious cycling' though? Just a little bit?

fines suck...but

last night and this morning I passed the same people about 4 times in less than 2 miles, all because they rlj'd. I'd had a shit day and I was on the verge of decapitating this woman when she undertook me for the 3rd time at red lights...what's the point? so I'm afraid I have little sympathy.

anyway, carry on...

I LOVE that. ^^^^^ :-)

They RLJ, you eat them up before the next lights. They RLJ, you eat them up before the next lights. They RLJ... You get the picture.

Given the speed you pass the uber-nodders, I reckon the RLJ-ing and getting left for dead 20 seconds later just saps their soul.

Me too now. A few pages back I said I RLJ all the time, hardly at all now. I can't be arsed with it.

It hardly makes any difference to my commute and I don't want a fine. Plus I do think you get slightly more respect from motorists for not doing it.

So now every day a load of nodders keep overtaking me at lights then I overtake them just up the road. It's all really pointless. If they want to get to work faster they should learn/train to ride faster.

If this thread has taught me one thing...

It is that I am Simon Smedley of 52 Dingle Gardens, Poplar, E14 4EQ.

pah, I'm not very fast.

And they weren't the same people morning and night - just the same people on each respective journey - my poor english!

And I hope it saps their soul, because it saps my patience. Like Fox says, these people do nothing to restore any respect for cyclists from motorists, or, come to think of it, knee-jerk politicians, who are responsible for doing something about the current "war on motorists".

faaaaark. I've been harbouring this rant for awhile. I know plenty of rlj'ers who are lovely, and obviously they ride well enough to avoid getting into trouble for doing it, but it seems pretty selfish to me, as someone who would like to see more people cycling and politicians actively doing something to help make it happen. and rlj-ing doesn't help.

If this thread has taught me one thing...

It is that I am Simon Smedley of 52 Dingle Gardens, Poplar, E14 4EQ.

well this is scary. I apologise for taking what I can only assume to be sarcasm rather literally.

http://www.192.com/atoz/people/smedley/simon/

Stalker!!!

I didn't get called spybot for nothing you know.

pah, I'm not very fast.

And they weren't the same people morning and night - just the same people on each respective journey - my poor english!

And I hope it saps their soul, because it saps my patience. Like Fox says, these people do nothing to restore any respect for cyclists from motorists, or, come to think of it, knee-jerk politicians, who are responsible for doing something about the current "war on motorists".

faaaaark. I've been harbouring this rant for awhile. I know plenty of rlj'ers who are lovely, and obviously they ride well enough to avoid getting into trouble for doing it, but it seems pretty selfish to me, as someone who would like to see more people cycling and politicians actively doing something to help make it happen. and rlj-ing doesn't help.

I can't find the post now but Cliveo responded to the idea that motorists get pissed off by the sight of cyclists jumping red lights by suggesting that cyclists stop at red lights - trackstand or whatever - and move off with rest of the traffic.
If you don't live up to the popular prejudiced perceptions of cyclists as RLJ/pavement terrorists that could quite easily piss motorists off.

It's not sarcasm - it's my new fake persona. Fuck da po-po!!

Well, ATK, at least you've still got your boyish good looks. For now.
I stop at red lights. My commute this morning took a leisurely 30 minutes. Of those 2mins and 40 seconds were spent not moving.
If only I jumped red lights I could save up to five minutes a day. That's five more minutes to think about ATK's boyish good looks in the comfort of my favourite armchair. Gotta be worth it.

thinks about atk's boyish good looks

I stop at lights too, but when cars pull up next to me in the ASZ i get annoyed and move in front.

I stop at green lights.

I am future radical.

Do they mess with your energy fields?