Android phones, apps and tablets

And I like the buttons on the desire, don;t know if i'd want to use android without them.

Seriously, what is it with phones w/out hardware buttons. They just seem so practical and so much more reliable that touch/on screen ones.

Also, what happens in the bootloader/recovery if you don't have hard keys to control it?

dislike that samsung... it looks like an iphone rip off.

I actually think it looks a lot like the HTC Magic 4G thing. Although, if I'm honest, I still think the original Magic and Hero are the most interesting Android phones out there (might be biassed, as I have a Hero and had a Magic before that). They just seem to be proportionally much nicer

Seriously, what is it with phones w/out hardware buttons. They just seem so practical and so much more reliable that touch/on screen ones.

Also, what happens in the bootloader/recovery if you don't have hard keys to control it?

HTC thought of that..

Volume Up/Down and the Power button are hard keys. This is what the Desire uses for hboot operations.

At the same time, Nokia will make about half of the former Symbian Software engineering team redundant in London and close the entire Cambridge site, with another 300 job losses.

There was a Symbian guy speaking at an AWS conference thingie the other day. Great 80's themed presentation with a request for employment at the end. I would hire him.

If you took the time to find out more you'd understand that this was a consortium of European based companies who applied for EU funding. The Symbian Foundation was set to receive a share of this money, about £1.2 million, with the rest shared between the other members of the consortium, but it's irrelavant now as the Symbian Foundation will close by the end of March next year with most people who work there losing their jobs by Christmas.

At the same time, Nokia will make about half of the former Symbian Software engineering team redundant in London and close the entire Cambridge site, with another 300 job losses.

Are you at risk andy?

@Branwen - in terms of the buttons, i think it's so much easier to navigate the desire than an iphone, much more flexible. and the track pad comes in useful sometimes when typing, as i have quite large fingers....

I left there two months ago Matt. Thanks for the concern though. :-)

Btw, heard about your bike - really shitty news, hope you get it back.

There was a Symbian guy speaking at an AWS conference thingie the other day. Great 80's themed presentation with a request for employment at the end. I would hire him.

Which AWS conference? Any idea who it was who gave the talk?

I left there two months ago Matt. Thanks for the concern though. :-)

Btw, heard about your bike - really shitty news, hope you get it back.

Ha, shows how much I pay attention. Was that just before I saw you at Dulwich College?

Yes, it was.

If you took the time to find out more you'd understand that this was a consortium of European based companies who applied for EU funding. The Symbian Foundation was set to receive a share of this money, about £1.2 million, with the rest shared between the other members of the consortium, but it's irrelavant now as the Symbian Foundation will close by the end of March next year with most people who work there losing their jobs by Christmas.

At the same time, Nokia will make about half of the former Symbian Software engineering team redundant in London and close the entire Cambridge site, with another 300 job losses.

Well I sympathise (and empathise actually, I'm very very unlikely to have a job beyond March myself) but Nokia 'did a Kodak' basically didn't they? In that the future direction of the industry was fairly clear but they failed to keep up quick enough. You obviously know a lot more about it than me though.

Don't get me started on Nokia, we'd be here for weeks.

(Although to their credit they did pay me to leave).

I wish I had that option, less than two years so if I go bye bye on 10 December (that's when we find out) I don't get a penny.

Are you still doing phone related stuff?

Which AWS conference? Any idea who it was who gave the talk?

In the Thistle on Tue. Youngish guy, dark hair had just flown in from Amsterdam.
I probably have his details at home.

I wish I had that option, less than two years so if I go bye bye on 10 December (that's when we find out) I don't get a penny.

Are you still doing phone related stuff?

I was lucky, had been at Symbian for 9 years when Nokia took us over so could cash in on that.

I am still doing phone related stuff - some Symbian, some Android and looking at some Meego work too.

In the Thistle on Tue. Youngish guy, dark hair had just flown in from Amsterdam.
I probably have his details at home.

Mark Wilcox?

Duh, I found the details online (who woulda thunk it?!)

Craig Box – IT Architect, Symbian Foundation
http://craig.dubculture.co.nz/blog/

He's a Kiwi. spits

Good guy though, knows a lot about open source infrastructure software.

His blog is written in some strange language I can't understand a word of. Maybe New Zealandish?

He's a Kiwi. spits
Good guy though, knows a lot about open source infrastructure software.

Yeah, I guess it would help if I remembered he talked funny.

andyp, what did you do for Symbian?

All sorts, joined as a technical consultant, then ran the Bluetooth team for a couple of years, moved to Product Management and finally had a stint in the Strategy team.

andyp, what did you do for Symbian?

Single-handedly crushed it with his lavish lifestyle and expense account..

Lol. Some of my colleagues were far more lavish than me.

Are you looking for a job?

I'll PM you

Grooming arrives in the Android thread. It was only a matter of time.