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Bollox.
On a road bike, doing stuff like using a shorter stem to make up for the fact you need a shorter top tube will radically change the handling.
Riders need to be able to reach their hoods and drops comfortably or the bike becomes basically unrideable.
I could go on a long MTB ride on a bike sized anywhere bewteen XS and large and be perfectly happy. But with a road bike I specifically need the top tube to be 52cm or it will feel like shit.
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sigh, it does sound like I have to do all the reseach meself, doesn't it?
Starting from your current zero knowledge, yes you have a lot of independent research to do. Or just buy the Pinnacle anyway, because you'll only really find out what you need by riding an MTB; nobody gets the right bike first time if they are new to MTB.
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second hand and up the budget is what it sounds like ... deffo want front sus. The reason I am looking for this is that bikes are very expensive in oz (or so I'm told) and since I have to ship loads of stuff anyway I thought I might get an mtb ... Adelaide has great trails and a dedicated park called "the eagle"... just that I have no bloody idea what's good :(
sigh, it does sound like I have to do all the reseach meself, doesn't it?
Try and find a bike with external BB cranks, you should be able to get them if you look around. Makes a MASSIVE difference.
What mdcc says about experience is true also. You may want to pick up a second hand cheapy bike first just to learn what you like about MTB and what size/parts you need.
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Makes a MASSIVE subjective difference.
ftfy.
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On a road bike, doing stuff like using a shorter stem to make up for the fact you need a shorter top tube will radically change the handling.
Riders need to be able to reach their hoods and drops comfortably or the bike becomes basically unrideable.
I could go on a long MTB ride on a bike sized anywhere bewteen XS and large and be perfectly happy. But with a road bike I specifically need the top tube to be 52cm or it will feel like shit.
1, It does this on an MTB too
2, And reaching your bars on an MTB is not important
3, Not offroad you couldn't -
Yeah, they just FEEL so good after switching from square tapers.
^True, dat.
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Starting from your current zero knowledge, yes you have a lot of independent research to do. Or just buy the Pinnacle anyway, because you'll only really find out what you need by riding an MTB; nobody gets the right bike first time if they are new to MTB.
Hmm, good point that. Just worried about size. It says in the size guide that it's for up to 6ft 1 ... I am 6ft 2 ...
My mate also just pointed me towards something like this:
http://skylinecycles.tumblr.com/exdemobikes
Genesis Altitude 20 - 19” - RRP: £1,495 - NOW: £750
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skylinecycles/5114106903/in/photostream/
Maybe I should have a weekend in wales?
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There are two of them, one at the front and one at the back.
b'dum tish!
Seriously, Tektro know how to make brakes, it's what they do. Sure, they're not going to be as nice as some pimpy Hope/Hayes/Magura/Formula/Avid brakes, but there isn't £250 in the budget for pimpy brakes.
they are not known for their disk brakes and they only seem to appear as OEM on low end bikes.
no need to spend £250 on brakes when avids and shimano deore's are so cheap.
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If you're upping the budget. Have a look at Merlin. VFM they can't really be beaten.
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sizing could be either medium or large, depends on what kind of rider you are.
if you want to do those boring 12-24 hour rides round a muddy field or rides with a map and miles of tedious doubletrack then you need a large. if you want to blast down twisty singletrack in the woods then a medium. -
2, And reaching your bars on an MTB is not important
3, Not offroad you couldn'tOn MTB's its pretty easy to reach the bars on various sizes of bike you are on. There is no "extended" portion of the bars you need to hold onto like drops or hoods.
I can and have. Everytime ive ridden MTB off road stuff in decent locations its been on an non-perfect fitting loaned bike. I also owned and rode a XL sized rigid mtb for years, riding it in bits of small local woods etc when I technically need a small. But the only issue was standover height. My "good MTB" that I own, is actually a jump bike that IS my perfect size. But I have wildy varied things like bar height/stem length based on what im feeling like. Nothing ever feels "wrong". With road bikes, small changes can ruin the feel/handling/comfort.
Fit will be most important for flattish-long distance kind of stuff because you will want the bike setup a bit like a road bike. For comfortable/efficient on-the-seat riding.
But the fact that any proper off-roading requires being out of the saddle makes a lot of this stuff redundant.
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You may want to pick up a second hand cheapy bike first just to learn what you like about MTB and what size/parts you need.
I know nothing about MTBs... but when friends who don't ride bikes ask for tips on bikes, I usually end up saying that ^.
Plenty of people on here seem to like ss MTBs. My mates that MTB think it's the dumbest idea ever. Same with not having rear sus... like most things, it's horse for courses surly?
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456, is that the on one? They look nice!
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There are two of them, one at the front and one at the back.
b'dum tish!
Seriously, Tektro know how to make brakes, it's what they do. Sure, they're not going to be as nice as some pimpy Hope/Hayes/Magura/Formula/Avid brakes, but there isn't £250 in the budget for pimpy brakes.