Any question answered...

that is what i feared

I've seen people cycling, and pushing a second bike alongside - if I try it will it all end badly?

I've done this before. It's a lot easier if you lift the front up and wheelie the 2nd bike, as then you don't have to steer 2 bikes.
Lynx did something clever removing the wheel and zip-tying the fork to his rear rack to make an insta-tandem (tm). It seemed to work.

done it without disaster :)

didn't do any clever zip-tying, but your tip on wheelying the second bike made turning corners a lot easier. on straight sections I just pushed it with both wheels down, otherwise my arm got too tired...
tomorrow to get to the station, hopefully without incident also.

You've said yourself your deep section wheels are for posing, not to shave a minute of your 25 time. In this case, why buy lighter components if the bike isn't being raced? I'm not talking about dropping a kilo or two off a commuter machine to make it easier to carry up stairs here.

BTW, I rode the 24hr on one of the cheapest carbon frames available at the time, a £500 P-X Stealth. The £3.5k S-Works (which used to be raced and now gathers dust and French rainwater) spent the 24 on the back of the car as a spare.

Anyway, everyone knows it's just crotchety old riders annoyed at other people with better bits than they ever had. Play with your new toys, enjoy them.

I think that my wheels look nice, it is true.

However if it was purely a looks thing then I could have just bought some off the shelf Carbon rims or wheels, and had them an awful lot faster, and almost certainly cheaper.

A very large part of putting them together was to see what happened, to experiment with ordering the rims from China and so on.

I think they turned out very well, but they have minimal miles on them yet- a full report will come in time.

Anyway, I still think the inverted snobbery thing/four Yorkshiremen attitude prevalent on here is a bit silly.

You're missing the point. I'm only talking about delusional reasoning behind spending, not the spending itself.

You're missing the point. I'm only talking about delusional reasoning behind spending, not the spending itself.

There is, though, a definite tendency among some hair-shirt cyclists to assume that all such spending is necessarily delusional.

I want to make my BMC lighter, how do I go about this? It currently has a Record/Chorus groupset, Easton ea70 wheels, ea90 stem, FSA Omega bars and a spec romin saddle. I know the wheels would be where I could save weight easily, but they're also really expensive. I cant' change the seatpost so I guess it's down to the groupset and stem/bars/skewers/saddle(not exactly heavy anyway).

Why?

because

Looks to me like he just wants a lighter bike, what's delusional about that?

I'd agree if he had said "I want a lighter bike because it'll make my average speed 5mph higher"

Looks to me like he just wants a lighter bike, what's delusional about that?

Two possible delusions:

"I'm going to notice that my bike is 500g lighter while riding"

"I'm going to enjoy riding more when my bike is lighter"

I think you would notice if you took 500g off the wheels, I can certainly tell the difference between two wheelsets if one is a pound or more heavier than the other.

Whether you are enjoying riding your bike is specific to each person, I really enjoyed going up Toys hill as fast as I could last Sunday, which I would not have done a year ago!

There is, though, a definite tendency among some hair-shirt cyclists to assume that all such spending is necessarily delusional.

Oh fuck yeah.

Isn't the whole point that weight is relative. I have a weight obsession - both my own, and my bike's... however when I'm riding a Boris I know it make bugger all difference. Shirley the best way to lose weight on your bike [i.e. rider + bike] is to eat less and cycle more?

^ bang on!

I want to make my BMC lighter, how do I go about this? It currently has a Record/Chorus groupset, Easton ea70 wheels, ea90 stem, FSA Omega bars and a spec romin saddle. I know the wheels would be where I could save weight easily, but they're also really expensive. I cant' change the seatpost so I guess it's down to the groupset and stem/bars/skewers/saddle(not exactly heavy anyway).

Skip lunch.

Or go to the Loo before riding.

@ Sumo.
The problem is, that to really save weight, you need to shave it off every component. Just buying one uber light component is not the way to do it. Its either bloody expensive, or will lead to a weak point in the complete bike (in terms of stiffnes, and/or comfort, and/or resiliance). This is doa ble when putting the bike together. But very wasteful if you do it via upgrades.

Answer: Buy bloody light wheels for sunday best.

^or racing, even.

It's the only way to maintain a longterm possibility of oh-my-god-this-feels-light-and-speedy-essness.

Even the pros (yes, even the pros) ride around on training wheels most of the time, and benefit from doing so.

It's like when you get told not to wear your coat indoors, because then "you won't feel the benefit" when you are ready to go outside.

the answer is simple, spend the money on steroids, forget your bike weighs anything at all as you fly up the steepest incline and sail along the flats at 40mph due to your hulk like legs...

^wrong drugs for climbing.

The ammount of them you could buy for what he's gonna splish on some ti and carbon... you could go all out and get on the growth... mountains would become mole hills...

Hgh

Or coke

or both.

my chainreaction order said "dispatched" at ten to 9 yesterday morning. regular free delivery.
is it likely to turn up this morning? I thought it might come yesterday... I need to go out at some point...

it'll be coming from ireland so next day on standard delivery may be overly optimistic. my stuff normally takes 2-3 days from CRC

it was ordered on monday morning, all in stock, took 48 hours to change to "dispatched". the free delivery is supposed to be Royal Mail 1st Class... bah.