Overweight 'should be protected'

irony is lost on most.... particularly Americans

For a generalisationist you make a cogent point...

Though I don't believe anyone should be mocked or bullied because of their weight, I don't believe obesity should be something to be encouraged. On a weekly basis I deal with people who are suffering from alements directly caused by there weight. Sadly I regulary have to work with a boy of 16 who is nearly 30 stone who condition means he is unable to walk or merely sleep lying down. His condition is purely down to his parents allowing him to eat far too much and him not doing any physical activity.

On a weekly basis I deal with people who are suffering from alements.

hippy has to deal with 'alements' on a daily basis...

^hahahaha

repped.

I'm pretty confident, and anyone that matters knows my views on the acceptance of fat people in society. That others have gone on TV, radio, and print to say the same things, did not therefore need further embellishment by me.

I can only say that I find Chris Crash's response to fat people "they should be shot", to be as far from my thinking and morality, as are the chances of fish popping into Evans Cycles and asking for a Charge Plug Racer.

There have been some deeply stupid comments on fat people just being lazy, or just eating too much. There is now evidence that being fat is due in part to some people's genetic markers. Its the same therefore as asking a skinny person to just eat more. As if one's appetite can be controlled without the brain messages to the stomach being inhibited or being unrestricted as the case may be.

It is very difficult for me to argue anything with people so ingrained in the "fat is lazy" side of the argument. I do know that in time, science will educate them. But at the moment, I find it best to leave the haters to hate. After all, what other enjoyment do they have?

What hurts me, is the effect that it has on those that are not strong-willed. The abuse makes them turn inward, and food then provides a fervent comfort. A cycle is then born, that would not have, if the larger person, were made to feel normal, and that there was a place for them......and maybe they'd want to join others in some social exercise.....like cycling.

Its known that I'm very confident, but many fat people are not. I'm lucid whereas some fat people go from minute to minute, worrying about where the next verbal attack will come from....and this perpetuates a further reluctance to be as social as they could. The large lady aerobic dancers didn't look a very pretty sight on BBC, but to hear the spokeswoman speak with tear-filled eyes, about the unfairness of the abuse, made me sad.

How does one defend oneself from a whole nation? Well, being mentally hardened is one way, but as a particular thread on this forum shows, .....not everybody is tough....all the time. People break, so why enjoy the misery of people who have fat rolls?

Is it because they can't fight back? Maybe. I can, but I've never needed to.

Whats also really sad, is that some forumengers on here, that I really respect, who are into personal training, or physical conditioning, are the most vocal in decrying the physical state of fat people. I won't get into an argy-bargy with them, but I do know that they are more wrong than they could ever imagine. But it would be impossible to convince them. That is life. Its almost funny.

Sorry I'm using a phone to write this and I have been at work for 14 hours.

Over eaters need to find a cheaper way to kill themselves and leave the NHS for people who actually want to live

(Said by a smoker)

Hobo, if I had my way, that 30stone boy's parents would be in prison.

The RSPCA can take animals that are ill through obesity from their owners. Sadly it is more difficult with human beings. Dogs can't get lawyers, and there is the crux. We can defend the indefensible.

It may have been noticed, that I think fat is good. Its sexy, and its comforting - just hug a bag of bones to prove my argument. But chronic obesity is an illness, that is morbidly debillitating. I've seen fat and healthy people, but also fat and very unhealthy people. Its the latter that need to change their diets, exercise habits, and maybe get counselling help. The other fatties, like me, are okay. Well, sort of okay then. :)

I'm pretty confident, than anyone that matters, knows my views on the acceptance of fat people in society. That others have gone on TV, radio, and print to say the same things, did not therefore need further embellishment by me.

I can only say that I find Chris Crash's response to fat people "they should be shot", to be as far from my thinking and morality, as are the chances of fish popping into Evans Cycles and asking for a Charge Plug Racer.

There have been some deeply stupid comments on fat people just being lazy, or just eating too much. There is now eveidence that being fat is due in part to some people's genetic markers. Its the same therefore as asking a skinny person to just eat more. As if one's appetite can be controlled without the brain messages to the stomach being inhibited or being unrestricted as the case may be.

It is very difficult for me to argue anything with people so ingrained in the "fat is lazy" side of the argument. I do know that in time, science will educate them. But at the moment, I find it best to leave the haters to hate. After all, what other enjoyment do they have?

What hurts me, is the effect that it has on those that are not strong-willed. The abuse makes them turn inward, and food then provides a fervent comfort. A cycle is then born, that would not have, if the larger person, were made to feel normal, and that there was a place for them......and maybe they'd want to join others in some social exercise.....like cycling.

I'm very confident, but many fat people are not. I'm lucid whereas some fat people go from minute to minute, worrying about the where the next verbal attack will come from....and this perpetuates a further reluctance to be as social as they could. The large lady aerobic dancers didn't look a very pretty sight on BBC, but to here the spokeswoman speak with tear-filled eyes, about the unfairness of the abuse, made me sad.

How does one defend oneself from a whole nation? Well, being mentally hardened is one way, but as a particular thread on this forum shows, .....not everybody is tough....all the time. People break, so why enjoy the misery of people who have fat rolls?

Is it because they can't fight back? Maybe. I can, but I've never needed to.

Whats also really sad, is that some forumengers on here, that I really respect, who are into personal training, or physical conditioning, are the most vocal in decrying the physical state of fat people. I won't get into an argy-bargy with them, but I do know that they are more wrong than they could ever imagine. But it would be impossible to convince them. That is life. Its almost funny.

Well said that man...

Hobo, if I had my way, that 30stone boy's parents would be in prison.

I often wonder about the role of social services in stories like that? Another complex area no doubt. a shame.

all fat people need to be protected from is all you can eat buffets

all fat people need to be protected from is all you can eat buffets

and tight or revealing clothing. nothing is more disgusting then a fat person in spandex leggings.

i can't be easy carrying around all that extra weight can it?
if i was to be the same weight as my Father was at his heaviest i would need to carry around over 7stone (we are the same height and he was the same 10.5 stone in his twenties that i am now).

all fat people need to be protected from is all you can eat buffets

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You're probably one of those guys who are into the meth look girls :)
(Not normal nautral skinny ones)

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You're probably one of those guys who are into the meth look girls :)
(Not normal nautral skinny ones)

Nah I'm not into trucker hats, wal mart threads and bad teeth.

this is stupid, comparing the like of racism and sexism to someone being overweight, fat people are at higher health risks then someone of average weight so a doctor saying to someone they need to loose a few pounds/stones is in the benefit of the patient!

anything that raises the risk of ones health should not be passed as the norm.

this is stupid, comparing the like of racism and sexism to someone being overweight, fat people are at higher health risks then someone of average weight so a doctor saying to someone they need to loose a few pounds/stones is in the benefit of the patient!

anything that raises the risk of ones health should not be passed as the norm.

It's the abuse suffered that is being compared, not the implications of falling within a particular stereotype that attracts abuse from the ill-informed (or thick cunts, if you prefer).

hth

Really?

Attacking someone for being fat should be a hate crime, campaigners say.
They want so-called "fat-ism" to be made illegal on the same grounds as race, age and religious discrimination.

anything that raises the risk of ones health should not be passed as the norm.

For fucks sake, what a moronic thing to say. Do you drink? Ever smoked? Eat red meat? Indulged in risky sexual practices?

Here's some shocking news just in - we're all going to fucking die. Get over it.

It's the abuse suffered that is being compared, not the implications of falling within a particular stereotype that attracts abuse from the ill-informed (or thick cunts, if you prefer).

hth

being over weight is a choice. if you don't want to people to show discust with your rolls pouring over the top of your sweat pants maybe you should have stopped at the 3rd bucket of KFC.

Andy has a very good point.

This still doesn't get around the fact that putting Fatism on a par with Racism is just preposterous.

From personal experience, doctors need to harrass people who are unhealthily overweight. 5 years ago my 65 year old grandma suffered a heart attack. A lifetime of rich Asian cooking had made her quite overweight, and it was as a result of this she suffered the heart attack. Thankfully she survived with minimal heart damage. Her cardiologist provided her with information on improving her diet and making herself healthier. She followed the advice, perhaps not religiously, but she lost some weight. This weekend she suffered another heart attack, and again thankfully she survived but her cardiologist said if she hadn't lost weight she would be dead right now.

People who have an illness should be encouraged to help themselves get better. If they are fat to the point of being unhealthy then they should be encouraged to lose weight.

Really?

Attacking someone for being fat should be a hate crime, campaigners say.
They want so-called "fat-ism" to be made illegal on the same grounds as race, age and religious discrimination.

Yes. If that's the only way they can get some form of protection then so be it, although there's very obviously a media spin on this and it's that more than anything that people are bickering over on this thread. Unfortunately it's also that polemic spin that has brought out some of the narrow-minded bigots on this thread, hence my earlier comment about the media being as much about a reflection as a projection.

If it were put this way by the writer/editor then I doubt very much it would have attracted quite so much attention "overweight people who routinely suffer abuse simply because of their size are seeking help from the government in classifying this abuse as both offensive and illegal."

Doesn't sound quite so offensive now does it. It's just a toned down spin, nothing else, same thought. Some of you should try thinking a little more laterally. Pulling your heads out of your arses would give you a different perspective for starters (madillness, those last comments are not directed at you).

My Dad was 12 stone when he gave up smoking, 3 years later he was 15 and a half stone, had a heart attack, survived and is now back down to 12 and a half. It was the weight and the stress it put his on his heart that nearly killed him.

Yes. If that's the only way they can get some form of protection then so be it, although there's very obviously a media spin on this and it's that more than anything that people are bickering over on this thread. Unfortunately it's also that polemic spin that has brought out some of the narrow-minded bigots on this thread, hence my earlier comment about the media being as much about a reflection as a projection.

If it were put this way by the writer/editor then I doubt very much it would have attracted quite so much attention "overweight people who routinely suffer abuse simply because of their size are seeking help from the government in classifying this abuse as both offensive and illegal."

Doesn't sound quite so offensive now does it. It's just a toned down spin, nothing else, same thought. Some of you should try thinking a little more laterally. Pulling your heads out of your arses would give you a different perspective for starters (madillness, those last comments are not directed at you).

nope its still offensive not only beacuse it is an offensively stupid idea, but beacuse it cheapens the harm done by racism.

And fat people deserve it.