Sleeping systems - bags, pads, matts, liners

order in time for the weekend

What's the saying about prior preparation? :)

Decathlon? or wander into your nearest outdoor store and see what they have?

Yeah, I've got a Berghaus one, although nice and warm - it's just a little too small.

@MrBaklava Had a look at decathlon? They've got a 5 degree synthetic one which would do the job, but couldn't say how packable it is for a saddle bag. If your mat is good, you could get away with the feather down 10 degree one with a couple of layers.

Bah, @hippy beat me to it.
Top tip, when packing in a saddle bag, ditch the compression sack that it comes with. The shapes dont match up.

^^ Cheap, warm, small pack size; pick 2.

Decathlon's probably as good a bet as any.
Comfort temperature 10°C, limit temperature 5°C, £90: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/trekking-mummy-sleeping-bag-trek-900-10-c-feather-down-blue-grey/_/R-p-307917

Comfort temperature 0°C, limit temperature -5°C, £140: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/trekking-mummy-sleeping-bag-trek-900-0-c-feather-down-red-grey/_/R-p-309272

@skinny here it is!

I need a new sleeping bag, around 0-5 C. 900 power down, 400g ish.

PHD seem to have gone from expensive but worth it, to astro-fucking-nomical.

I have a phd m degree 400k now (-9)

Anyone seen anything good but not bleed you dry expensive?

ta!

the very best manufacturers these days:

• katabatic gear
  
• nunatak gear
  
• phd
  
• as tucas
  
• cumulus outdoor
  

Thanks didnt know cumulus.

Being in Spain I am sure if I order phd I'll get stung tax too which is a kicker.

yeah sucks doesn't it
a couple of those manufacturers might be persuaded to make you some custom gear....

Yup. Dont want to order from USA either.

I'll email phd and see of they've shipped Spain and what situation was.

Now there's money burning a hole in my pocket for a poncho quilt from as tucas...................

seen phd have a m degree 100k in the bargain box. TOT of 10C, tempting.

poncho quilt from as tucas

That looks hilarious imo (but very comfy). Does it double as a wingsuit?

Now you know why they make them out of feathers

so i've asked phd how much it will cost to get down taken out of my minimus 400k bag (-9 TOT).

It seems like re-purposing the bag I have might be smartest. And given that when I raced using that bag I took a insulated jacket and pants, just sleeping in those too if needed.

And use the taken out down to make another bag or quit or jacket.

I went to the nunatuk gear workshop, based out of the owners garage and can vouch for the unbelievable quality of their work. Their jackets feel like what i imagined clouds would feel like when i was younger. They're also open to custom work (just did a ventile jacket i believe) only catch is the waiting list.

yeah, imo they are the best custom outfitters ever
they've built tents and packs also that look bonkers but are only for employees...one day

nunatak gear

I want to have a go at making a jacket now, love that. The red and blue anorak on their Instagram is so dreamy.

:)

start here - https://backpackinglight.com/forums/forum/gear/make-your-own-gear/
and here - https://old.reddit.com/r/myog/

I never really took /r/myog seriously because a lot of the bags look shoddy, but the jackets look great. Will have a better trawl. This quote alone made looking at the first link worthwhile, would have never thought of this:

The trick is to cut all layers to the size of the outer shell, taking into account the thickness of the insulation. For instance if you’re going to have 1 inch thick insulation so the outer shell will be 1 inch from your body, you will have to add enough girth or width (and height) to the pattern to accommodate this. I took a couple of guesses with this jacket, and got a couple of things wrong, as I noted above. For instance, my horizontal down chambers puff up and effectively shrink the length by quite a bit, so the arms are a little too short.

Orders opening in september I think. ;)

I know this has probably been asked here a million times. I have had a little read through the last few pages, I saw that the decathlon bags have had a decent enough recommendation, now I’m not looking to throw down a massive amount on the gear but under 300 would be nice.

My plan is for the classic bivvy setup, I’m going to make a silpoly tarp myself and probably use a tyvek ground sheet. But for the mat, bag and bivvy some recommendations from what you lot have used personally would be nice. This will mainly be a summer setup I want and I can layer up under the bag to save on gear weight.

Was looking at the Thermarest Spacecowboy 45 for a bag, maybe Alpkit Cloudbase for a mat and one of their more budget oriented bivvy bags. Would this be a good spend of my money?

I'm going to make a silpoly tarp myself

great, make it 3m x 3m in 20D

use a tyvek ground sheet

great, get the lightest weight one off ebay, 3m x 3m or close to it

mat

thermarest neoair or decathlon whatever

bivvy

don't need one of those if you have a tarp and a groundsheet

bag

answered this a million times

Exactly what I needed cheers for that! I had considered no bivvy if using a tarp+groundsheet! That’ll help me keep the weight down. I’ll go and do a bit more of an in-depth trawl for sleeping bag reccs then!

Alpkit Cloudbase

Nope. Get something insulated.

Just been having a read up, yes I clearly have not done enough research so will keep on looking. Definitely will need a insulated mat if I’m going the lighter weight route don’t want to catch hypothermia!