Owning your own home

Yeah perhaps it's not fun living next to a cafe/bakery.
The seller has even compiled a document all about the new bakery, the party wall and planning permission, which is ringing some alarm bells...

Bakeries do their baking in the small hours of the morning so that it's ready when they open in the morning. I'd be concerned about being woken up at 3am by the smell of delicious pastries. Also potentially noise but mainly the pastries.

I see I'm late to the draw with my bakery advice

because prehaps the same concerns you have or others have expressed or they themselves had expressed in a previous time ... so took some action to be prepared

^ yes it's very thorough and it's no surprise when you discover one of the owners is a solicitor.
Reading between the lines it appears that they've had some issues with the builders.
Wife has the jitters about it already so the cast has already been set.

Ahh the truth unravels. Be interesting what issues they had. Is the bakery recent?

Hahahaha @ the smell of delicious pastry’s 😂😂😂

Bakeries do their baking in the small hours of the morning so that it's ready when they open in the morning. I'd be concerned about being woken up at 3am by the smell of delicious pastries. Also potentially noise but mainly the pastries.

And what about the cupcakes? Won't someone think of the cupcakes?

I wonder if there's a legal precedent for putting a discount on purchases into a party wall agreement?

I'd be looking for some sort of serving hatch or a dumbwaiter at least.

It was a bakery pre pandemic then went bust.
Before that (and when current owners bought it) it was a quiet artisan indoor market place.
A trendy cafe/bakery* is now renovating it and taking over hence the new work
So it will be mega busy and because it’s currently shut we have no way of evaluating noise/disruption etc

*rather not name bakery or road as it’s not fair on current sellers to speculate

It's zoned as a place where food can be cooked, etc... the use of it could change from a bakery.

Would you buy the place if it was a kebab shop or fish and chips shop?

Food deliveries are early, bakeries start v. early... but also there's smells and a bakery smell is pretty nice, but a kebab shop or chippie smell is a bit much. You have no say what type of food prep is done there in the future.

God, I would love to live next door to a chip shop. Yes, I know - smells, loitering, loud fish-based chat, endless styrofoam boxes outside my front door. But there's no downside great enough to outweigh having chips and giant pickles on tap. (I was very distressed to discover that pickles are apparently a southern thing.)

I lived about three doors down from a posh fish and chip shop and it was financially and obesogenically ruinous.

It's not like I started eating fish and chips every night but I did start having chips as the side dish every night.

Or say, you're having mates round, usually you'd get some beers and some crisps - instead you get some beers and some chips.

https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/58004672/

Is it me or does that not seem like horrendous price (probably really badly insulated etc) but still for that perf warehouse aesthet?

Need some help. Anyone recommend a plumber in the E5 Clapton / surrounding areas??

May need an urgent call out tomorrow.

Thanks

SE15... Modern House... Unlikely to be reasonable beyond that combination.

That’s pretty bangin. I imagine it’s fucking Baltic in winter though. One little electric radiator for 100m2 living area and a wall of single glazed steel frame windows 🥶

There are some recommendations here, but I don't think all of them are up-to-date. Some people are working on updating the lists, so hope this is some use.

https://cazenovearea.org.uk/building-services/

Leasehold too

I’d buy that if I had £1m

It's a weird mix of expensive aspirational loft living and small cardboard rooms for student party warehouse.

@Vince jurisdiction

996 year lease though

@dbr yeah no walls, no radiators, no problem - just run laps to keep warm. I'd rate living there if you could get it warmed up, decent location and would feel like a proper big dog

fuck that looks so cold. spy the electric heaters