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i can recognise another cunt at a 1000 yards
its my cunt magnet status
High-5!
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LOL, no i am definitely my own person. I just agree with what he has to say.
Thanks for the grammar correction:-)
How do you check aliases?
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^^^ He's the gaffer. He can check the IP and MAC addresses you're connecting to the site from.
And thank you for suggesting I'd use a sock puppet Velocio! That one cut deep.
I've used the interwebz for years. I remember the days when the WWW was pretty useless and Usenet was where all the action was. When one of the most useful resources on the Net was an FTP site with a text file containing the locations of (count them) two and a half THOUSAND websites. I was as cool as fuck - I had an EMAIL ADDRESS!! Yeah. I saw someone with a T-shirt that had his email addy on it - that was genuinely geek-chic. It makes me feel old sometimes. But this isn't the first website I've ever used. Or the first bunch of people I've ever interacted with. This isn't the first argument I've ever got into. I might be new to this site but it would be a mistake to assume that all new people on the site are complete "n00bs". I don't need sock puppets to make or carry an argument - I can do that very happily all on my own. Sock puppets..? They're for the weak. Oooo, that stung.
Seriously though, I think it's a valid point. There's loads of cries of UTFS, but have you tried reading some of those old threads? Some of them are dire. Wading through pages and pages and pages of out of date comedy. You can see it was obviously amusing at the time - that's one of the things I like about this forum is the banter - but trying to read it as some kind of library of information or help is like wading through treacle. Which, if that's a fetish of yours, then good luck to you. It's just not something that I'd do as a hobby.
Take the helmet threads... Come on, ANY of them. How many useful posts do you reckon there are as a percentage of total posts? Because you can post pictures on this forum (which many don't let you do, you can only post links), it means that all threads about helmets descend into 5 pages of people posting the most outrageous pics of helmets they can find. You KNOW what I'm talking about...
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It's a shame that anyone starting a new thread now has to start with saying 'I used the search, and found nothing so I started this one . . .' as an anti flaming device.
I get what Tee Bee is saying, but most of the UTFS cries are aimed at people who ask questions that have already been answered in many threads. The mechanics & fixing threads are less comedy and more advice so it's not that hard to look thru them and find the answers.
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Yeah, that's true. Although you get less replies in total on bikes and Bits. Maybe I'm spending too much time in General? Time for a shift?
Perhaps it's also a cultural. I spend most of my time on other websites that aren't bike related. There's a lot more ideas, opinions and discussion, than something as straightforward as lumps of metal with bits wot fits to them. So people are more open to a new take on an old topic, because sometimes looking at something from a different angle can be useful. An unusual angle for many cyclists is finding their head under the table after eight pints. ;-)
This is the first website I've used regularly where people are quite so fascist about reposts. But then I guess bikes, and specifically fixed gear bikes, are a pretty narrow topic really.
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Wow, that's to be the most profound pieces of (non-bike related) erudition ever.
As a noob here (but far from a noob in the real world), the flaming is highly entertaining (when one is not the target) but often not very constructive, and often rude for the sake of being rude and for getting a cheap laugh. However, it does have a beneficial use, it makes anyone who has witnessed a naplam attack very VERY wary about the questions one might ask.
Maybe people could be nice and just say "There are numerous threads readily available, mate". Or TANTRUM for short.
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...a naplam attack.
Good description of what sometimes happens.
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But using TANTRUM or TANTRAM sort of defeats the discussion that sometimes questions SHOULD be rehashed for the benefit of those new to this forum.
Its not about the langauge or the abbrv., its about the fact that we should not get napalmed for a relavant thread because it was once used somewhere out there or in here.
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But using TANTRUM or TANTRAM sort of defeats the discussion that sometimes questions SHOULD be rehashed for the benefit of those new to this forum.
Its not about the langauge or the abbrv., its about the fact that we should not get napalmed for a relavant thread because it was once used somewhere out there or in here.
Agreed. Sometimes a UTFS response can stifle the advancement of thinking on a subject (posted), this is detrimental not just to the poster, but the entire community.
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Tea bee
given the fact that you stalked and flames me due to you not reading my comments properly you may understand my reluctance to trawl your every argument to find your point. Can you possibly just post what you are on about rather than make veiled references.
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Hey Tea Bee, I've been following this thread for a little while and while your comments are valid, UTFS is too often thrown out there by new and old alike, as is HTFU, the forum has them now as signifiers of its personality, like it or hate it, and railing against it probably won't change it.
Because new members wanna belong and take on the meme automatically, without actually wondering what they are doing, and so it carries on, from generation to generation.And as much as I advise people to search for the information they need here, that doesn't preclude anyone from searching any of the other cycling forums out there, which might have a more straightforward answer to a question than the rambling, accusatory, swearing laden image filled threads we seem to specialize in.
And in answer to your question I have read many threads on this forum, you take out what you need and if the answer isn't there you ask the question and if you don't get the information out of it, you use other means.The forum is a free for all, we monitor ourselves, this thread is that initiative in action, but its not perfect, as attested by your dissatisfaction with the response you got to whichever question you asked. But personally I find the constant reiteration of the message that the forum is unfriendly, is just so much hokum, the forum's no more unfriendly than it used to be if you come in looking for quick answers, or cheap bits without giving anything back. Interact, invest and its friendlier than you can imagine. You've been to South Easts and Souths so you know this for yourself.
On a side note this is probably the only internet forum which I have invested anytime in, and maybe I'm deluding myself but I believe its pretty special. So I do get peeved when members new and old piss on it from a great height, when has been pointed out many times, that the special bit of the forum isn't the part where we sit here and type stuff onto a server somewhere, the special bit is all the things we do together outside on our bikes, polo, rides, drinks.
So as I said earlier as much as I like the thought of the forum being the sum total of thought and existence on bike related matters there are other places to get more straightforward answers to some of the questions people might want to ask, and if that is the case, there is nothing wrong with finding information elsewhere so as not to be frustrated by the rambling incoherent one upmanship that threads can descend into.
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Brilliant work Tea_Bee. (May i call you TB?)
Well said and very eloquent! I agree with that passage and dont think i couldve said it better myself.
There are some of the older hands who are quiet helpful, but i do agree.
I suspect you will make a great oldie if you dont go postal and kill everyone! :-D
Also there seems to be a tendancy sometimes to rile the newbie until he snaps and curses and swears and ultimately gets banned. Quiet sad really as we should be trying to encourage newbies like ourselves to start both cycling and using only one gear.
The problem is that you may end up getting attacked yourself for that passage (and postal here we come!)
But damn, there were some pearls in there that made me laugh ( i think its cause i can relate)
Some will say just ignore the person making rude comments, but when they cut you off at every Thread, it is difficult.
I really like this forum, dont get me wrong, i really do. There are some seriously gifted people here. And tons of information and humour to boot. But for a noob (i laughed at myself for using that l33t speak) it is difficult to speak up.