Do you live your life by your principles?

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  • I have to admit, I've never met a wealthy person (or a person who grew up in a wealthy family) that didn't have tell tale marks of some sort.

    Not that I meet that many wealthy people in my white trash life.

  • If you mean material goods then yes, of course, that comes with the territory..

    Im talking about money doesnt necessarily change the person in terms of their principles\values\ethics etc..

    Some of my clients who are wealthy give generously to charities and research foundations, and they are humble about it.

  • I was trying to say people that I KNOW, not generalising.

  • when you said ...

    "**People who deny that money doesn't change them are usually the ones who have been brought up with the "riches"
    **
    I understood that to mean people in general, not your family.

  • Well, Im trying to explain that applied to people I know. I'll rephrase that or something now.

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    PS I like the lyrics to that ^

    Been meaning to post that for you for a while!

  • Been meaning to post that for you for a while!

    Could've posted it on my profile

  • Oh aye so I could....soz

  • Get a room!

  • Oh and while I'm here. If you don't have any principals to live your life by you're fucked. You're even more fucked if the principals you choose are not respectful and honest.

  • I went to a Principles once to buy a shirt for an interview and she gave me too much change, which as a principle in itself I can commend

  • Some of my clients who are wealthy give generously to charities and research foundations, and they are humble about it.

    Yes, it's great when people use there money to solve problems, isn't it. Oh...wait...

  • This - what you have written here - is what I mean by 'corporations run countries' - it is no conspiracy theory, the influence and power of the corporation is well recognised, I am not suggesting anything controversial or new here (if I understand you correctly).

    The bit about conspiracy theories was a joke. :)

  • Do unto others as you suspect they are planning to do unto you, just get in first.

    Toodle pip.

  • Yes, it's great when people use there money to solve problems, isn't it. Oh...wait...

    solve problems? if you mean donate money to help cure diseases like breast cancer etc... then yes, its wonderful... you never know, their money could help save your life one day!

  • They were your principles he stuffed up his arse.

    If we are talking about a loan (credit agreement / credit card / overdraft / mortgage etc) when you signed on the dotted line you were generating a promissory note (let's say the loan was £5,000).

    So you made (through your actions) a £5,000 note - you signed it:

    I andy.w promise to pay the bearer (the bank or any party the bank sells the promissory note onto) the sum of £5,000.

    When you left the bank (with nothing) the bank was left with a £5,000 note - it is something they can use to buy things with (just like the £20 promissory note you have in your pocket) - or trade - or sell on - it's money.

    How much did this £5,000 note (underwritten by you) cost them ?

    I think the current reserves rate in the UK is 1:9 (someone who knows about these things might want to chime in here and clarify that figure) - so that £5,000 note (which you made and signed and promised to honour) cost them £555 - they bought a £5,000 note for £555.

    This is why banks are fabulously wealthy private businesses.

    yeah, yeah, yeah.....late i know but....

    to add to this...a friend of mine just wrote off £7000 of debt from Egg. He just read LOTS and i mean LOOTTSSSSS of law books, law terminology and had big balls and had it cleared. It seems that you can disprove/prove you owe/are owed anything/nothing.

    pffffff

  • If you make a reasonable offer they are likely to accept it - I cleared a loan and a credit card this way.

  • What I'm saying is this: It is easy for soemone with money to write a cheque to make themselves feel better about themselves. I am 99% certain that none of your clients had to go without something in order to give money to charity, and in the end they get to feel like a nice guy, regardless of how they came to have said money in the first place. Sure, it's better than having them say, "sod helping people I'm going to buy a fleet of bmw's", but it is an easy way to a clear heart.

    What I'm driving at is that you could be running a company that strip mines in Africa, but as long as you support cancer research, then your a good guy.

  • What I'm saying is this: It is easy for soemone with money to write a cheque to make themselves feel better about themselves. I am 99% certain that none of your clients had to go without something in order to give money to charity, and in the end they get to feel like a nice guy, regardless of how them came to have said money in the first place. Sure, it's better than having them say, sod helping people I'm going to buy a fleet of bmw's, but it is an easy way to a heart.

    What I'm driving at is that you could be running a company that strip mines in Africa, but as long as you support cancer research, then your a good guy.

    I understand your point but in this case, you are mistaken.

    the family I am referring to have made thier wealth from years of sacrifice and genuine hard work... they also lost their 28 yrs old daughter, 18 months ago to breast cancer.

    they are just 1 of many I know off who give generously and although Im sure you have a valid point and there are cases that support what you are saying, not everyone comes into money effortlessly, nor feels they have to justify " being a good guy" by giving to others.

  • solve problems? if you mean donate money to help cure diseases like breast cancer etc... then yes, its wonderful... you never know, their money could help save your life one day!

    i guess that depends in what way lives have been adversely affected by that creation of wealth.

    (edit posted having not read past the quoted post)

  • i guess that depends in what way lives have been adversely affected by that creation of wealth.

    so, you're saying everyone who acquires wealth does so to the detriment of others? or, am I missing something ?

  • so, you're saying everyone who acquires wealth does so to the detriment of others? or, am I missing something ?

    I'd say that pretty much accurately sums up the world, yeah. If we're talking *wealthy *wealth and not just 'acquiring' a monthly paycheck.

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