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  • For what, knocking a wooden box up with a bit of foam in it? The cabinets can be made by someone on £5 an hour at a rate of, say 10 an hour? labour charges ain't much. Now cones on the other hand cost lots to make, but Celestions are still made in Ipswich and still the best you can get.

    Yeah, it's cheaper for a Chinese guy to make a box with foam in it.
    How much are a set of Celestions?

  • For what, knocking a wooden box up with a bit of foam in it? The cabinets can be made by someone on £5 an hour at a rate of, say 10 an hour? labour charges ain't much. Now cones on the other hand cost lots to make, but Celestions are still made in Ipswich and still the best you can get.

    Looks like Celestion are made overseas anyway. From their site:

    "In addition, the manufacturing facility replicates the Ipswich test and listening facilities, incorporating its own hemi-anechoic chamber and acoustically neutral listening room, and industry-standard measurement equipment such as the Klippel® Distortion Analyser. This ensures the highest degree of accuracy and consistency from design inception right through to final manufacture. With warehousing facilities in Europe, China and on the east and west coasts of the US, Celestion customers enjoy efficient logistics and day-to-day contact with local account managers based in all major territories."

    "Celestion is part of the Gold Peak group with an annual turnover of more than US $1 Billion."
    *
    Gold Peak Group* is an Asian multinational group

  • Meh, that can only have been very recently. They were still entirely Ipswich based not-so long ago.
    My mum worked there back in the 70s. All the other speaker manufacturers bought their cones from Celestion.

    edit: yep, set up the chinese plant in 2007. Apparently only the posh ones are still made in England.

  • Oh, I did google them. Didn't realise you were shifting a set.
    I'd actually emailed the seller of those units RPM posted asking about the stands.
    Let me have another look at 'em.

    just to avoid confusion i'm selling some PMC tb2 and have replaced them with a pair of the diminutive Leema xero's, mainly due to size.
    the PMC's are great and any online review will say the same (as would a listen) just wanted something smaller.

  • "without paying stupid money for audiophile bollocks"

    Also, it was you guys that somehow thought I meant £700 sets of speakers when in fact I just asked for louder speakers and a way to minimise noise to neighbours. If I wanted audiophile shit I would've posted in the other thread. Maybe you should take time to read the question properly. #argosftw

    I thought this was the audiophile thread, if you'd sort your shit out and show me the fucking thread titles then maybe I wouldn't get so confused.

  • just to avoid confusion i'm selling some PMC tb2 and have replaced them with a pair of the diminutive Leema xero's, mainly due to size.
    the PMC's are great and any online review will say the same (as would a listen) just wanted something smaller.

    Do you any stands to match them?

    "Partington Super Dreadnoughts" have been mentioned. Great name.

    I'm sure they are overkill for what I'd use them for. What amp were you using with them?

  • I thought this was the audiophile thread, if you'd sort your shit out and show me the fucking thread titles then maybe I wouldn't get so confused.

    Your thread titles have been removed pending discussion with the web design team on the effectiveness of thread titles. When the studies have been conducted and results finalised we might let you have them back.

  • ooo, nasty

  • Reply from Leema bloke..

    "I used Atacama Nexus 5I with atabite mass filling (circa £100). They were up for auction seperatly but sold last week. Prior I used hand made solid Oak stands. Basically you need something solid and at the right height to align the tweaters to ear level when sitting down if you can. Loads of second hand on ebay or pay new prices.

    The auction is for the speakers only. The first review speaks for itself if you have read it. As I said in the listing I have only sold because I now use Kudos X2 which retail at £1450. The Leemas are remarkable for their size and I was tempted to keep for a surround system."

  • Do you any stands to match them?

    "Partington Super Dreadnoughts" have been mentioned. Great name.

    I'm sure they are overkill for what I'd use them for. What amp were you using with them?

    i am keeping the stands, because A. they were made for me by my old man. B. they are 1/4in 5x4 box section so way heavier construction than what you can buy in the shops.

    plenty of stands available just get spiked at the bottom and the right height/top plate for your speaker.

    i used a naim 90/92 pre/power only 35w but as the PMC's are sensitive at 90dB/W/m so almost anything will drive them.

  • Am I going to need any weird pre-amp, bi-amp setup or would they wire straight into my bog standard Denon hifighettostereoblaster?

  • Just for some context, the speakers I'm replacing came from Oxfam and probably cost me £20.

    The amp I have is only 50W/ch. A Denon something.. PMC 350 I think.

    without paying stupid money for audiophile bollocks

    Also, it was you guys that somehow thought I meant £700 sets of speakers when in fact I just asked for louder speakers and a way to minimise noise to neighbours. If I wanted audiophile shit I would've posted in the other thread. Maybe you should take time to read the question properly. #Oxfamftw

    Fuck of to Oxfam then

  • They closed the Oxfam that sold audio kit. :(

    I don't buy their diaries any more either.

  • Am I going to need any weird pre-amp, bi-amp setup or would they wire straight into my bog standard Denon hifighettostereoblaster?

    no weirndness banana plugs or bare wire binding posts on the back for your cables.
    if you had a car you could take them away and try them.

  • Now I have to buy a car?! This audiophile shit is getting out of hand..

  • they will not fit in a courier bag that's fo sure

  • What if I take my Red Stripe cans out first?

  • you might fit one speaker in?

  • Mono is more zen, more connected. I feel more in tune with the music without the unnecessary complication arising from your new-fangled stereo encoding.

    Let me have a look at their dimensions. I take it they not setup at your place at the moment?

  • This is for the TB2+. Do they sound about right for yours?

    H 200mm 7.87"
    W 400mm 15.76"
    D 300mm 11.81"
    Weight (each): 8.5 kg 18.7lbs

  • ^ Surely width and height are mixed up...

  • same size 400H 200W 300D. they are in oak not the studio black version (same spec components more expensive veneer)
    not set-up but 2min to put them back on stands and plug-in

  • Good as anywhere I guess, I'm looking for a stereo rack, preferably nice wooden probably modular

    I quite like the walnut finish on this http://www.hifiracks.co.uk/hi-fi-racks/2/podium-reference

    but the price makes me want to double check before pulling the trigger, does anyone have any suggestions?

    thanks

  • Wow, that's very nice.

    I have a hideous glass and chrome pipe one inherited from my Granny. I don't really have space for it in my new flat, do you fancy it for £50?

    EDIT: the walnut is definitely the one to go for.

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