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  • OG was worse than where it ended up but surely no one can think the OG PS3 was anything but a pig. Xbox 360 Slim was the best:

    PS3 slim was an improvement on the PS3 launch console but still...

  • At least the PS3 taught the designers a valuable lesson that no console should be glossy. Then they made that weird extra slim version where the disc tray looked like someone just cut into the side of the console cos the disc drive had broken.

    I've never seen a 360 slim in real life.

    Honestly I'm pretty hyped about the next gen consoles, but more so about the controllers than the consoles, they both look so refined now.

  • 360 also red ringed itself like mad, the daft basturt

  • ps3 has 3 iterations though, OG, Slim and Super Slim

    I had all 3, OG died on me (40gb of sweet sweet storage) Slim replaced, then i won a blue super slim from Sony through a twitter comp. (still have that somewhere)
    Super slim was annoying because the disc tray slid open on the top and was easy to knock open if you moved passed it too closely.

  • Found this excellent photo:

    Still got my PS2 slim on the desk, wish I had've kept my PSOne. That thing looked lovely IMO.

  • PS2 slim was a lovely design

  • PS2 slim was a lovely design

    I'd completely forgotten about it. Definitely pinacle.

    Look what looks remarkably similar in proportions though:

  • In other news... Xbox stepping up their studio acquisition game:

    No word on the exclusivity of future games but feels unlikely for the large franchises.

  • ^ $7.5Bn

    We will be adding Bethesda’s iconic franchises to Xbox Game Pass for console and PC

  • PS2 and one X are certinally the lookers out of the lot.

    The new PS5 looks hideous, but I can understand like like up PC cases people will love it.

  • hummina hummina

    never had an X1 or X1X (did have a 360, and have had every PS and nintendo console, barring the wii U) but looking forward to getting an XSS with game pass

  • game pass

    Definitely the strongest value offering of the current / next generation.

    I'd love to see xCloud / GamePass streaming come to Nintendo Switch as an app. That would kill everything.

  • because there already wasn't enough Skyrim

  • If anything, this removes that issue. It's now free, across generations, for anyone with a Game Pass subscription.

    No more paying for Skyrim.

    Oh, and whenever they decide to drop the next elder scrolls, it'll be free on Xbox on day one.

  • https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-­09-21-playstation-5-digital-edition-stoc­k-far-lower-than-standard-ps5-sources-sa­y

    I read this earlier; it's odd.
    I would assume the aggressive pricing on the digital edition would be what a lot of people are after and, the lock-in to Sony's store would provide a higher ROI to them over the life of the console. I was definitely assuming this would mean that early production was the other way around...

    I can only assume they're luring people with the low price then hoping they'll buy the more expensive one because the cheaper one is unavailable??

  • It's definitely tricky, I wouldn't want to be the person in charge of making the call of how many of each to manufacture. Digital edition consoles are still unproven ground, the Xbox One All-Digital has been about for what a year, and now it's discontinued. I would bet on people wanting the disc version over digital any day but the $100 discount will definitely tempt some. I also feel like it's a different proposition than the Xbox X and S because the S is just so cheap it's almost in a different market.

  • I also feel like it's a different proposition than the Xbox X and S because the S is just so cheap it's almost in a different market.

    Agreed. I guess it's healthy that people have so much choice now. Switch, Game Pass, PS5 etc offer so many different ways to get into gaming at so many different price points. Consumer win.

  • I would expect they are able to produce data on how many active consoles out there have digital only foot prints or digital majority footprints quite easily. That will have been quite low and they'll have speculated on the Long game by amping that number up a lot. Its likely a loss leader (probably both are) and as that article says, some shops wouldn't have wanted to stock close to a 50/50 split as it cuts them off down the line.

  • One thing that surprises me is the gaming industry is huge these days, estimated $160bn this year with esports worth another billion. Yet studios seems to be constantly closing and restructuring, esports tournaments seem to be organised on a shoe string and the only person making any money out of it is EA and Ubisoft.

  • I wonder how much of that is a little bit of the Hollywood tax arrangement sort of thing. Do studios purposefully arrange their profits so that they never actually make money on games?

    It seems that many studios hire then fire then re-hire people and are constantly re-structuring studios on a project by project basis.

    They wouldn't be able to sustain it if money wasn't being made somewhere...

  • The weird thing about digital only is that this has been the case with PCs for years and no-one really noticed it happening.

    The Steam, EA Access, etc integration with Geforce Now is interesting. Buy the game on Steam and play it anywhere using Geforce now is a tempting one. The range is a bit limited at the moment though which it will have to overcome.

  • I'd put the move to digital down to steams success over any of the other platforms that have appeared. Sadly can't see PS Store ever being as competitive as Steam has been, but they do have some good sales these days.

    @Sumo surely the esports money is being made by Blizzard Activision, Valve and Riot Games rather than EA & Ubisoft?

  • surely the esports money is being made by Blizzard Activision, Valve and Riot Games rather than EA & Ubisoft?

    Riot is owned by Tencent so it's in a whole different ball game. Valve I'd argue is barely even a games company any more, it's just Steam printing money for them.

    Blizzard does still make money but god knows how, WoW has been their lifeline for a decade now

    Net income US$1.503 billion (2019)

    Don't under estimate the amount of dosh EA and Ubisoft pull in. But they were just examples.
    EA

    Net income US$1.04 billion (2018)

    Ubisoft

    Net income $1.587 billion(2016)

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