Lorry drivers and seeing red

+1 and remember most HGV's have an external engine kill switch, which is rude not to use

hmmm, where is this generally located? Purely out of academic interest, you understand.

Should've let the air out of his tyres whilst he was making a delivery.

( Glad you're okay though :) )

You were on a roundabout against the flow of traffic, and a lorry driver coming towards you decided to vent a little. Ok you can question his decision to use his vehicle in that way, but surely the thought must have crossed your mind 'I am gonna piss people off'?

I know it's London and ra ra ra, it's busy and yadda yadda...but I know that whenever I've gone against the flow of traffic, there is always some cunt who decides to remind me that I'm pulling a stupid one by driving that bit closer towards me. And without fail they've been right, I have been trying to pull a stupid move off....first and foremost, they've reacted completely as I would have expected them to....they've got all defensive and 'look at this fucking joker' on me!

I cycled home from the timber merchant the other day with a 2m length of 4B2, a white van pulled out in front of me and I pretended to joust the driver's head through the open window, but came slightly closer than intended,.... is that still passive aggressive?!

ps normally on the nearside to the rear of the cab - usually there is a red toggle

When people get into their cars, mostly, they have a strange psychological shift which causes them to behave like real idiots. I find it utterly bizzare the way most people drive. I am sure some studies must have been done on it by someone.

@damo, yeah that's cool! I was having a word with a Mbike courier the other day who'd been magsjkhadkjADdkhADing at me:

'sorry I hope I haven;t upset you'
'you fucking do what you like'
'Ok, I'm going to apologise, sorry if I was somehow in the wrong, I'm not clear what you;re upset about'
'you just fucking do what you like, I've had it all day'
'sorry to hear you;ve had a bad day'
'I HAVE NOT HAD A BAD DAY!!! fgfgfgfgasagaagagalkhwgflhwefl;hwe;foh!!!

This sounds even funnier in person!
Glad to hear you're ok mate, a lot of cuntish drivers out there and annoyingly too many in very big heavy vehicles that can kill you easily.
I should teach you how to bunnyhop so you can go over the traffic island next time.
;)

@Eightball

not a roundabout. That would just be mental

Well. I think the bigger the vehicle, the more responsibility you have out there. I try not to put the shits up peds when they're texting whilst crossing the road in front of me, I just try to be tolerant. I asked the lorry driver to perhaps just try to be more tolerant.

There is no way to win these arguments as such, all you can hope for is to put a few thought into their heads, make them re-think their view that minor traffic offences by cyclists warrant the death penalty.

not a roundabout. That would just be mental

Ah, must has mis-read your post, Appypolly loggy's

When people get into their cars, mostly, they have a strange psychological shift which causes them to behave like real idiots. I find it utterly bizzare the way most people drive. I am sure some studies must have been done on it by someone.

I just think driving turns some people into bullies: the bigger the vehicle the more they think; "That **** should get out of my way".

When people get into their cars, mostly, they have a strange psychological shift which causes them to behave like real idiots. I find it utterly bizzare the way most people drive. I am sure some studies must have been done on it by someone.

Totally. Yesterday morning, young woman with huge sunglasses on in a beemer, with like about 20 metres to go to the stationary traffic at lights, decides she HAS to get around me, even if it means she goes over the central line into the other lane, just so she can get in front of me and then pull up behind other cars. So I gestured to her to kinda indicate that she only had a short way to go, was it worth it etc. and she just looked straight through me.....dunno but it just got to me.....there wasn't even any recognition that I was even another human in her face! Fuckers eh?! How are we all so insular and cut off like that eh?! I'm not like that as a driver.....

Don't be an argumentative dick

lol fair enough. All I'm saying is that it's inevitable you're going to end up in a situation where you're on the wrong side of the road and a large vehicle is headed straight for you. The other day I was passing the usual 500 buses on Oxford St by using the wrong side of the road; a combination of circumstances meant that a bus coming towards me got the green light but I was still in his path. The driver shook his head and threw his hands up in a "the world's going to hell in a handbasket" type act, and all because I delayed him for <1.5 seconds.

So i go back to my summing up: why can't we be friends?

You should have offered to stamp and trim his seat cover as a peace offering Skullychops.
I like you approach of chasing him down, pleading and crying - thats going to fk his head up!

You weren't in the wrong IF he was driving to the conditions, Londons famous is a tight area and you will always come across flash points where acting sensible should take priority.
To drive at a cyclist is irresponsible, stupid and dangerous. What if your chain or foot slipped? Was he driving in a manor where he could have controlled his vehicle and not killed you?

i wonder how he would have defended his arguement if he had killed you knowing full well that if he grew up, dropped his childish attitude and driven to the conditions you would have lived and he wouldn't have had the image of Skullys little blood splattered groaning face at the front of his mind everytime he closed his eyes... just a thuoght..

I hope that fucken lorry driver buys a beaded seat cover, and subsequently concludes that it is not as comfortable as he anticipated.

I hope he buys a kit kat and the fingers are all broken.

I hope his the tea he buys at rosies tea cafe is tepid at best and the stirer is bent making him think some of the plastic melted in the tea and could give him cancer

I hope I feel slightly naseous all morning but then cheer up a bit later.

So i go back to my summing up: why can't we be friends?

yeah, agreed, tree- hugging aside, when Im riding in busy traffic and especially Londons famous london its so easy to keep pushing that edge of acceptability, we KNOW that they are going to be stopped again real soon so why shoudn't we keep on with riding flow? guess that's where you were at this morning.
At the end of the day (and other cliches) I stop at reds, dont take any chances where visibility isnt perfect, and just remind myself that Im not getting paid for this journey so why not just go with the flow.
Hope your ride later is a smooth one.

So i go back to my summing up: why can't we be friends?

Because we hate eachother and will only be happy when there is nothing left but ourselves. And banks. Probably

I think you are both a little stupid, if you have kids and don't want them to grow up fatherless, you should think twice about riding on the wrong side of an island in central London rush hour. The only time I have ever got in trouble is through impatience.

People are not stupid, their actions are.

I hope he reaches for the last tunnocks tea cake at the same time as an elderly man who whistles when he breathes, thus stopping him in his tracks and making him think how age catches up with us all.

I hope that fucken lorry driver buys a beaded seat cover, and subsequently concludes that it is not as comfortable as he anticipated.

I love you man. That curse is gonna really disappoint him, a bit.

People are not stupid, their actions are.

Absofuckinlutely.

I'm glad you are ok Skully. I had the same once overtaking a bus and a bus coming on the other side sped off and flashed its lights at me. Jaygee was laughing behind me as I squeezed between the two buses.