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Hmmm, it's not in thread tools and I can't find it in post editing mode... :(
- Edit on the first post in thread (you might be able to edit others I've always used #1)
- Go advanced
- At the bottom, just above Submit, is an option to "Close this thread after you submit your message"
- Check this and then Submit
It might be that only posts in the Classifieds can be dealt with this way.
- Edit on the first post in thread (you might be able to edit others I've always used #1)
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Ha, perhaps I'll manage to get the last post with this one before hippy persuades Festerban to close the thread.
:)
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But I agree with MrSmyth, I don't understand why I'm in such a rush during my daily commute. It's just the fixed gear ethos, putting thunder into the pedals until nicotine addled lungs breath like a burlap sacks of smouldering coals and battery acid pools and festers in my kneecaps. There's no room for red lights in that equation.
i'm going to disagree with your "fixed gear ethos". if you ride fixed speed moderation is easy and instinctive. i don't commute every day but there are 50 sets of lights on my usual route in, i know the phases of the lights at junctions so know when to speed up and slow down so that my stationary time is minimised, i would rather slow down and track stand for a couple of seconds then move off than race up to or through a red light. this way your agenda is different from all those frantic nodders and you arrive at your destination with a warm readybrek glow and not in an apoplectic rage.
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Good luck with that.
Posts by hippy in the 'Last Post Wins' thread: 1,316.
Now, if the OP just arbitrarily closed that one at some point ... :)
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... the chance of hippy being the last one to post would be quite high.
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The real problems is the numpties who RLJ when it really isn't safe to do so. I've nearly taken out a few of them when I've got a green and they're in the way. I've also shouted at a few. Generally nodders.
This is why I personally don't RLJ. Yes I know the light sequence of nearly every junction on my commute, I know exactly where to look and I can get myself safely across that junction...
But monkey see monkey do and all that.
Other peeps ignore the red light and ignore the entire junction... and I know I'm stereotyping slightly but the young ladies who would otherwise be driving their Renault Clio's seem the worst for doing it!
Classic example yesterday - bog standard neon unipack with an arospok! Just after he'd narrowly avoided my path his chain actually broke! Karma.
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I would loved to have seen that.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1695668.ece
a reason to jump red lights...
Speculation, not fact. No such study exists. And the report referred to wasn't kept 'secret' either. See:
http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/red-lights-and-media-spin
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Hmm, nearly everyone has said "yes I RLJ, but I do it safely, it's the numpties who scream through sending peds flying that are the danger". Do you not think that these initiatives are mainly targetted at them? The fact that you get caught up is bad luck but if you break a law in front of police, especially one they've been told to crack down on that day, and get all pissy when they call you on it, you don't really have a leg to stand on. Ranting about it to your cycling buddies isn't really going to do anything (apart from the useful posts that tell people where to take a bit more care). Write to your MP or Boris or something, anything productive.
The argument of "why aren't they stopping people driving while on their mobiles" etc is null and void because I bet you there are far more FPN's handed out for that than for RLJ's. There's even PSA adverts on the telly aimed at spanner drivers. I've yet to see one aimed at people cycling on the pavement or through ped crossings.
People seem to think the coppers have made some decision themselves to go down to a certain junction and pass a shift ticketing cyclists "to meet targets and get a bonus" (seriously, wtf?, whoever heard of a PC getting a bonus for ticketing people). If they are they are there as a proper operation then some word has obviously come down from on high that memebrs of the public believe the problem is bad enough in that area to warrant taking up many man hours. These MOP's have obviously been doing the writing to their MP or Boris thing I spoke of earier.
If you happen to get stopped when there isn't one of these operations then that's even worse luck. But still, you broke a law in front of a police officer, albeit a minor offence, and it's up to the discretion of that officer whether you get a ticket or not.
And this thing about them talking rubbish like "i don't want to have to scrape you of the road etc etc". That kind of thing would only obviously come from someone who doesn't have that much cycling experience, not everyone is as cycling savvy as you.
Ah fuck it, I can't be arsed anymore. I RLJ when I think it's safer for me and other road users. If I got stopped I would say just that, if they ticketed me, fair enough, if not then that's just grand. I certainly wouldn't go pissing and moaning about it.
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Seriously though, emeralds are green aren't they?
Any fule kno that emeralds are emerald in colour.
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I agree. Accessorizing precious stones like that can be done, but only cautiously and with taste.
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I agree. Accessorizing precious stones like that can be done, but only cautiously and with taste.
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Seriously though, emeralds are green aren't they?
For pretentious cnuts like myself the sky is green.
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i'm going to disagree with your "fixed gear ethos". if you ride fixed speed moderation is easy and instinctive. i don't commute every day but there are 50 sets of lights on my usual route in, i know the phases of the lights at junctions so know when to speed up and slow down so that my stationary time is minimised, i would rather slow down and track stand for a couple of seconds then move off than race up to or through a red light. this way your agenda is different from all those frantic nodders and you arrive at your destination with a warm readybrek glow and not in an apoplectic rage.
absolutely fucking right, one of the reasons couriers rode fixed was the immediate response you get when riding (relatively) slowly in heavy and constantly shifting traffic.
If you just want to ride at the same speed (as fast as you can) at all times then you may as well run gears
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Advanced stop line. it's those green bike boxes at lights.
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Having an Americanised accent puts you at a distinct disadvantage when dealing with Po', even though they asked what country I was from, I guess being Canadian isn't as important as I had previously thought.
Or perhaps they didn't hear me, because the refused to acknowledge my proper citizenship.
"Two things can happen when you go through a red light. You either get a thirty pound fine. Or you wake in the hospital and your legs are still stuck under some bus..."
Wow?
Also, "I don't know how they do things in America, but you won't find me going over there and breaking their laws..."
Here, red means stop. Green means proceed, carefully..."
Fair enough. And, "Thanks for showing some fucking respect to my country (said rather sardonically)..." before squealing away (in a Toyota Hybrid).
No fine, which was kind o them. This was on High Street Ken, and the best part was - due to traffic - getting to ride beside these two very patriotic specimens all the way up to Hyde Park, hitting every red light along the way, waiting patiently and smiling.
But I agree with MrSmyth, I don't understand why I'm in such a rush during my daily commute. It's just the fixed gear ethos, putting thunder into the pedals until nicotine addled lungs breath like a burlap sacks of smouldering coals and battery acid pools and festers in my kneecaps. There's no room for red lights in that equation.
Until the coppers gave me a stern chinwag, that is. There's a certain quiet respect, that unparalleled comfort in submission, while queuing up in a ragtag pelaton of neon and lycra, waiting to see yellow, so I can proceed carefully - you can almost hear it lilting along the air. I want to be one of them. Geared up the fuck to oblivion, knees shot out at 90 degree angles, too enamoured with chirping birds and mischievous squirrels to keep my eyes on the pavement. God help us if the smoggy sky happens to be shimmering blue, like smudged emeralds. Like it is right now, why the fuck am I inside writing this codswallop - goodbye.