Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

And yes, i am in Australia and it does get that cold.

Does anybody know the inseam length of the Pro Team II Bibs in Long, please? And is there any variance in leg length as you move up and down the sizes?

I could measure my pro team lightweight xl long if you want to.

Something else:

I am really confused how much tighter the pro Team
Stuff fits compared to the classic jersey.

The classic keeps sliding up all the time. Really annoying.

What size is your mavic jacket? I’m looking for a M rain jacket for descents etc if you are selling.

Per rapha ” in a small the inseam will be approximately 24cms for the Regular length and approximately 27cms for the Long length.”

Leg length is about the same diff up and down sizes

Oh, I'm not letting it go. Just want a similar but reflective jobbo for in the dark.

But you can find them still. I.e.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Mavic-Cosmic-Pro-Jacket-AW17_89838.htm

Haven't got around to listening to that episode but I must say I'm really enjoying that podcast

@elllguapo Thank you!

@titof Don't worry about measuring, but thanks for the offer :)

What’s the “rapha for running” nice but pricey brand? Does it exist?

Ashmei

Kappa seem to be making stuff again.

Tracksmith

I tried on the cotton shorts and the randonee shorts yesterday at the Raphe. In two different sizes. Strangely the smaller size shorts had a larger waist circumference when held up side by side. Quality control seems to be non existent.

They sized the randonee trousers up recently, the older gen 32 inch feels the same as the new 30.

To add another level of confusion to sizing issues, they've muddled up the sizing charts. Premium level confusion.

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Which page are you viewing please? This doesn't seem to be occurring on all pages.

https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/mens-sizing-guide

on Chrome (should that make a difference), the mens and womens size charts are wrong way round.

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Ah ok, I see it now. A ticket has been raised to fix it. Thanks

What about the sizing confusion between cotton and randonee shorts?

What are you confused about?

I tried the Touring shorts, size 28 waist. Fit like a 27. I am have the Randonee shorts, size 28. Fit like a 30. They don't run a "true" waist size, different lines have different sizing, especially across different years @dancing james

I don't have direct experience with either item; the website states on the Randonneé's:

The cut of these Rapha City Shorts is more generous than in previous seasons. For the perfect fit we recommend downsizing by one size.

I'd imagine the reason being increased comfort for longer riding, whereas the Cotton Shorts are more casual on/off bike city wear and fit a little closer.

But inches are inches. Recommending everybody size down in something sounds like the sizes are wrong.

Rapha, nice but pricey sizing issues.

14 years in, always try before you buy.

I got my 32inch technical short through the post today, they fit great. When I measure my wait I’m a 36inch waist, I normally fit a 34 inch in Levi’s etc. I have some of the newer Randonneé's shorts in a 34 and there massive, old Randonneé's shorts also in 34 fit nicely. lots of old touring shorts too and theyre all 34 and fit very well.

I have no idea what’s going on with the sizing.