30 mph speed limit for bikes?

Why?

I don't really care, but it might be an idea to consider whether making people more angry and frustrated whilst driving is a good idea?

If you are constantly slowing to 4mph, over the bump, speed up to 20mph, slow down to 4 mph, over the bump, speed up to 20mph, slow down to 4 mph, over the bump....

How does reducing speed limits make people more angry?

Because it takes longer to get to their destination.

The difference would be tiny. Some traffic would probably flow better with lower limits.

Perception vs reality innit though?

The driver might get somewhere in the same time, possibly, but they will feel like they've taken longer.

I don't buy this "go slower to get there faster" thing anyway- it just makes people cut corners, slam over traffic calming and zoom down rat runs.

I'd rather an angry driver at 20mph than 30mph.

Slam over whatever they want.. it's their suspension.

But they don't, do they?

Take those humps they put in the road- all drivers pretty much swerve left or right to avoid them, which is more dangerous for cyclists, not less.

I swerve around them too. I had that shit.

20mph it aint.

drivers will get used to it, in fact lower speed means a better environment for people on bikes and on foot so more drivers may be less scared to cycle so may do so. I think many drivers are just frightened potential cyclists.

I find speed bumps cause anger, a low speed limit seems easier to accept, even easier when doing a couple of mph above it!

you should be able to do a speed bump at the speed limit, that's the point of them, if it's in a 20 zone, you should be able to do roughly 20 over it without issue (especially in a lamborghini) if your doing 20 - 4 -20 - 4 - 20 etc then you're over cautious or driving around in an unsuitable car for built up areas (get a range rover), save your anger for country roads and rinse the car around there instead

Thats not how Speed humps work

that's how I use them, unless I know they've been made too big

I prefer my suspension to work for more than a year and my wheels to remain round.

I teach people to drive in my car, so can't worry too much about luxuries like round wheels and the like

you should be able to do a speed bump at the speed limit, that's the point of them, if it's in a 20 zone, you should be able to do roughly 20 over it without issue (especially in a lamborghini) if your doing 20 - 4 -20 - 4 - 20 etc then you're over cautious or driving around in an unsuitable car for built up areas (get a range rover), save your anger for country roads and rinse the car around there instead

They should work like that, but they don't- the new ones by East Dulwich station make the buses slow down to 4mph to get over them.

And you can take speed bumps at 70mph if you don't give a fuck about your car- or it's a hire car/nicked

Depends on the car you've nicked.

tru dat, they don't all work like they should, I just go slower over the ones I know have been made too big for the speed limit though, to be honest, they're all a bit shit, if only people drove better...

I was driving down Camberwell Grove the other day, at a speed that meant I could go over the speed bumps without slowing, so ~18-20mph.

Car behind leant on the horn, flashed its lights, then over took me, racing off to the end of the road.

Where I pulled up behind them, as the traffic meant they couldn't pull out.

try driving around in a car with L plates on all day, people assume your going slow no matter how you drive, fuckers overtake at the stupidest times, best bit is beating them at lights after correctly using a bus lane, only up to 30 of course

if only people drove better...

See post below yours and above this.

My dad got pulled for going over 30mph in a built up area once (30+ years ago). Stupid plod had been sitting there watching a time trial without realising it, and said he'd seen a load of cyclists going too fast and just picked on one at random. As my dad was about as good as me (i.e. destined for perpetual mid-pack obscurity), he was slightly pleased to have been going fast enough to get noticed, which reduced the annoyance of having his race ruined.

Did they use boot polish?