Fahgettaboudit Lock Holder

ok. so i called them. the guy answering the phone got nervous. I was on hold and started to feel like i had them by the balls. then the lock division got on the phone and started laughing at me. their words were "we have tens of thousands" of keys. Not ten. They did however, say that their bike racks--the Topeak ones that lock--don't have many keys. Those are just meant as a deterrent whne you're filling the tank or something. Not meant for security. They also said that is explained in the packaging that the racks come with.

case closed.

Then ask them to send you 11 locks with different keys.

beautiful.

great thread.

Does anyone else do this with theirs?

...And yes, a scaffold tubed Raligh plus a Krypto Fah makes a very heavy bike!

brilliant!

If you wedge it in nicely it doesn't rattle at all either. :)

pifko i have to say your idea is legendary simple, but like i said it doesn't work on mine :( i wish it did.

the velcro so far is doing a good job, but the lock seems to skew a bit somtimes and chaff against the frame.
solution is probably more insulation tape. Let you know how it works out.

tried it last night.
serious rattle.
I think im going to just keep mine under my belt.

did u use silicone and insulation tape to de-rattle it so to speak ?
if u didnt, well, im saying nothing.

I didn't think Scott would joke about something so serious, but I needed to check anyway. Here's anecdotal "evidence" that Onguards key combinations need revisitiong, and maybe there are as few as only 10 different versions. Until I hear differently from the manufacturer, I know I can't recommend them

Taken from: http://velospace.org/forums/discussion/325/kryptonite-mini-u-vs-onguard-bulldog-mini-u/

[]bionnaki
[] CommentTimeMay 14th 2009

                                                                      I do not trust onguard locks -- any of them. they do not produce a wide number of key/lock combinations. I heard a number of 1 out of 10 keys will work in their locks. And my onguard key happened to work in a friend's friend's u-lock one night when we were drinking and talking bikes. We had a "lets test this" moment and it worked. 

I am supporter of kryptonite now.

I also recommend the fahgettiboudit mini u-lock. If they're too expensive at your shop, ebay seller tough-locks @ http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/tough-locks has them for $65 bucks + free shipping. And if you're worried about the weight, you shouldnt carry them in your bag -- just put the lock into your belt or buy one of those fabric horse holsters for 15 bucks. you wont wont notice the weight once you're riding if it's not on your back. I'll put up with these minor issues in exchange for the strength of the lock vs. the evo mini - a fine lock, but not quite as fine as the fahgettiboutdit mini.

Scary, that a lock company, that makes some of the best locks ever, has so few key combinations.
Defeats the purpose of such a strong lock as their Brute Mini. Weird.

EDIT: ONGUARD utilise something called the M-Cylinder on their Brute locks. It says that there are 100,000 combinations, but of course if less are used, then less templates need be made for the key manufacture, and that reduces costs, dramatically. With 100,000 possible combinations, unless the key manufacture is completely computerised, then maybe it is possible for a manufacturer to make only a few variations. It makes sense. I'll report back if I get to speak to anyone at Onguard. It would be a shame to go from top 3, to bottom 3 in an instant.

did u use silicone and insulation tape to de-rattle it so to speak ?
if u didnt, well, im saying nothing.

oh, I meant the pifko method...

i use an archie grobag strap which fits the fagedaboutit perfectly... plus i get cool points for looking bad ass.

Late on this one but, does anyone want to help set up a honey trap whereby we sit in wait with, say, a shiny bob jackson, as bait, and then, when the cheeky Ladri di Bicicleta arrive, we break their frucking ankles with their own tools?
probably just ventting here but if felt good for a while...

oh, I meant the pifko method...

patent pending

Good thread. Any innovation like this has got to be good.

+1 million on that one scott, I can only keep one bike indoors and the tea leaves around here will take anything - including old beaters, even properly locked up, but does seem to happen overnight. There was a shitty MTB locked just round the corner over the weekend with a D lock and one of those Kryptonite cables to protect the quick release front wheel, they just snipped the cable and took the front wheel, just a crap basic mountain bike wheel, almost don't know why they bothered.

i for one don't want to ride a piece of shit bike for 80% of the time.

U-lock holders:

http://bagaboo.hu/2009/05/20/u-lock-holder-trackosaurus/; http://www.urbanhunter.biz/shop/catalogue.php?item_id=758

http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/product_info.php?pName=u-lock-holster&cName=messenger-bags&osCsid=99abd1ddd2d13a742ab9b0e14d4f2291

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://redline-bags.blogspot.com/&ei=94E1StfSJsSfjAev65D9CQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dredline%2Bbags%26hl%3Den

There was a shitty MTB locked just round the corner over the weekend with a D lock and one of those Kryptonite cables to protect the quick release front wheel, they just snipped the cable and took the front wheel, just a crap basic mountain bike wheel, almost don't know why they bothered.

it's simple, there's a LOTS of people locking their bike through their front wheel only leaving the frame exposed, all that left is simply getting a front wheel for the stolen bike.

secondly, they're worth a tenner or two to sell.

U-lock holders:

http://bagaboo.hu/2009/05/20/u-lock-holder-trackosaurus/; http://www.urbanhunter.biz/shop/catalogue.php?item_id=758

http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/product_info.php?pName=u-lock-holster&cName=messenger-bags&osCsid=99abd1ddd2d13a742ab9b0e14d4f2291

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://redline-bags.blogspot.com/&ei=94E1StfSJsSfjAev65D9CQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dredline%2Bbags%26hl%3Den

hey some of those are pretty sweet.

I like these the best: http://www.fabrichorse.com/index.php?page=lockholsters&item=160

Genius; over your spleen instead.

your spleen, under normal circumstances is pretty small, and protected by the rib cage anteriorly, laterally, and posteriorly. Important for this discussion is the fact that the left kidney and adrenal gland are located posteromedially.

blunt trauma to either side is more likely to hit a kidney. and it's more likly to happen on the right because that kidney sits lower.

now if a human has just had mononucleosis, or maybe some infiltrative process is going on, inducing splenomegaly, this discussion changes dramatically.

if you are an experienced trauma physician and know something that my lesser experiences haven't taught me yet, do say, rather than doing whatever it is that you just did.

I like these the best: http://www.fabrichorse.com/index.php?page=lockholsters&item=160

Nah, you want the whole Fabric Horse Superhero Utility Belt look FTW:

a quick update,

i've now wrapped it with some cloth rim tape and secured it with insulation tape to stop the lock vibrating against the frame itself, and it is now completely silent.
No problems at all with it.
I know its only a few simple velcro straps, nothing revolutionary, but it works perfectly and gets that dead weight away from my body. Very pleased with it.

i should note that on the U-bend part i layered the cloth tape to about 5 layers thick then secured it with the insulation tape.

a quick update,

i've now wrapped it with some cloth rim tape and secured it with insulation tape to stop the lock vibrating against the frame itself, and it is now completely silent.
No problems at all with it.
I know its only a few simple velcro straps, nothing revolutionary, but it works perfectly and gets that dead weight away from my body. Very pleased with it.

i should note that on the U-bend part i layered the cloth tape to about 5 layers thick then secured it with the insulation tape.

That's pretty cool. Great idea!

Tidy. Nice work Dylan.

re: kidneys. Fell on my left side, hitting a curb when I was a kid. Tore the ureter. Still, glad I didn't fall on the right side now...

i shall now call this the "kidney friendly lock holder" :D

was there ever been a problem with the d-lock near the kidney?