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Perhaps by demonstrating that paying what is due would actually make some difference and improve society. After all a lot of them pay for electric cars and other green choices in large part because they perceive such choices to be responsible and worthwhile. On the other hand I would guess that they perceive there to be little value or return from contributions to bureaucracy that consumes most of what they pay before it reaches the coal face and that what does reach the coal face only serves to maintain the status quo.

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Your in it ?

So the rich don't have to pay their fair share until bureaucracy and waste and payments to the undeserving are all eliminated?

I would argue that the flip side to this is that the poor don't have to try to find a (currently non-existent) job until such time as they have equality of opportunity with the rich.

In other words - there is no hope.

Or

In other words the rich and the poor are as bad as each other, apart from the fact that the rich are in a privileged position and much better placed than the poor to occupy the moral high ground, therefore deserve much greater criticism when they fail to.

You are conflating two concepts. I agree that the well off should have to contribute to both the maintenance of all at a very basic minimal threshold and also contribute to further to improve the skills and social functioning of those on the minimum benefit to the point where they can move off it.

The question I thought you asked and that I answered was what can be done to get those paying the contributions to pay them willingly rather than seeking to avoid / evade them until forced to pay them by enforcers who are then paid out of the contributions that are collected.

I think I agree with jeez, something has to be wrong.

anyone seen any good TV!?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03phwk5/The_Truth_About_Immigration/

Who is this Paxman wannabe bald fuck? What the fuck is this shit about? Who the fuck interviews Nigel Farage as a credible person to express thoughts on the BBC? Why the fuck has this country feels more and more right wing the more I try to ignore? Thank fuck I dont own a TV and pay BBC's salaries. Motherfuckers. Immigration is fact of life for first world; get over it; get used to it or get fucked.

Anyone catch the 7.39?

I would stay up all night just to pick the fluff from Sheridan Smith's washing machine.

Ha.

I watched both episodes last night. Thought it was pretty good if a little light.

is that the thing with the Governor in it?!

Yeah, he's actually quite limited as an actor I think, but then he was up against Olivia Coleman. The flirting was implausible. No spoilers, haven't seen the second part yet.

is that the thing with the Governor in it?!

Yes. I was expecting him to stab someone in the forehead at any minute.
It made it more entertaining.

Stonados is on Syfy. I didn't think it could get better than Sharknado

Olivia Colman is the best actor / actress I have ever seen - she deserves all the praise she gets for me. Have a look at Tyranosaur - a difficult watch, but her performance is breathtaking.

That Sherlock episode was brilliant, but have to say Moriarty is incredibly un-menacing being as he sounds just like Graham Norton

Nah it was shit.

Stonados is on Syfy. I didn't think it could get better than Sharknado

Haaaaaa.

Having another go at the rest of Banshee, but will pause for Sherlock in a bit.

the new lord of the thrones telly show is looking up

Game of Thrones Season 4: Trailer #1 (HBO) - YouTube

inb4 "the book was better"

Did anyone else catch 'Operation Grand Canyon'?

I didn' t see yesterday's episode but the one before was interesting enough that I'll watch it on iPlayer.

True Detective

HBO series, really slow burn but setting up a few story lines. You can feel the heat and tension. Looking forward to the rest.

Banshee was OK again, I think I watched too many in a row before. Boardwalk empire is awesome.

Did anyone else catch 'Operation Grand Canyon'?
Caught up last night. Pretty interesting with some rapids action thrown in. As usual they big up the danger element more than they really need to with things like "If they get this wrong, everyone in the boat could DIE!!" but apart from that yeah, pretty good.

Plus glow in the dark scorpions!

Banshee, utter bullshit but enjoyable. Storylines are about as convincing as the A Team.

There was even a nice A team reference in the first one of the new series.