Short bars... yes or no

Amateur homosexuals!

haha google image search for "fucked thread" and the first image that comes up is my old bike! :D

isn't that picture taken on an incline?

peloton at full speed on the flat = drops and hoods.

It was taken on my driveway which was slightly ramped.

peloton at full speed on the flat = drops and hoods.

Peloton for the previous 4 hours of the race.. hoods and TOPS.

Look at the bloke at the front! he's the antithesis of gay.

Proof, i'm sure you'll agree.

I like the pretty flowers.

amateur homosexual.

I like the pretty flowers.

It's the obligatory sunflowers and peloton shot (lots of amateurs riding the tops of their bars as well).
But I'm not sure all those cyclists would like you referring to them as 'pretty flowers'!

Nice stereotyping there...do you have a problem with homosexuals too? or just the ones who ride on the top of the drops?

Is this one of those subtle signal things?

I'm a little guy (not far off midget, you might say). I'd hate to mistakenly send out a signal regarding a taste for being dominated by bears. Especially during Hippys commuting hours ;)

hehe...err...but nobody ever said we were doing a comparison test on different styles of handlebars....this was a discussion on narrow bars....of any kind. :)

What I mean is to say you ride with your hand near the stem with track drops is no like with flat bars or road drops. A track drop may be 38 - 40 cm wide but unless you are sprinting in the drops the shape of them strongly coerces you to place your hands at or near the stem. So saying for example that you ride track drops near stem despite them being 40 cm wide, you only effectively have a 25 ish cm bar you can use so is not the same as saying you ride a 40 cm flat bar or risers at the stem as you are forced to ride a narrow bar on track drops.

What I'm tryign to get across saying is you can't say a 40 cm track drop had the same usable width as a 40 cm of flat bar or riser bar, it's really like a much narrower bar to start off with.

Mtb aero tuck FTW!

What I mean is to say you ride with your hand near the stem with track drops is no like with flat bars or road drops. A track drop may be 38 - 40 cm wide but unless you are sprinting in the drops the shape of them strongly coerces you to place your hands at or near the stem. So saying for example that you ride track drops near stem despite them being 40 cm wide, you only effectively have a 25 ish cm bar you can use so is not the same as saying you ride a 40 cm flat bar or risers at the stem as you are forced to ride a narrow bar on track drops.

What I'm tryign to get across saying is you can't say a 40 cm track drop had the same usable width as a 40 cm of flat bar or riser bar, it's really like a much narrower bar to start off with.

Hehe....You seem to be arguing with yourself here tommy.
I never said anything about which bars have more usable width than any others. I simply said that i like narrow bars and still like to ride in the centre of my track drops too. Nothing to do with usable widths or the difference between track, road, flat, or riser bars.

I hate turtles.

But you love ninjas...go figure!

remind me, which means you're gay, earing on the left or right?
Go kill yourself, you'd be doing humanity a favour you bigotted cretin.

anything narrower than theses is just plain wrong

wtf?

how fecking long is your index finger?!!!!!!!!

Go kill yourself, you'd be doing humanity a favour you bigotted cretin.

LOL :D

I make a stupid joke about an earing, and you tell me to kill myself for the benefit of mankind.

who's the real bigot here?

To you it may be a harmless joke it may be but the longer people come out with that kind of shit the longer that homophobia will continue.

Have you ever been the victim of an attack based on that (or any other) kind of prejudice?

No i've never had my ears pierced.