Cargo Bikes

Probably lets you put the deck a bit lower if you don’t need to have a steering rod running underneath it.

March!!

I am toying with getting Load 60.

Man that R&M design detail makes Bullitt feel a bit home made. I think I should have got R&M to begin with, bullitt has minor inconveniences which will make me snap one day and fire the money gun.

Baby is here now and thank you for the advice, it is much appreciated!

Best place to get wide (65mm?) 20” SKS guards?

Not actually for a cargo bike but figure this is probably the best place to ask.

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Oh just realised you will need prob need a 20” rear, can’t really help with that sorry!

See if anyone local sells Terns, think they are 20” front and rear

Man that R&M design detail makes Bullitt feel a bit home made. I think I should have got R&M to begin with, bullitt has minor inconveniences which will make me snap one day and fire the money gun.

I think you need to remember that the Bullitt is primarily a utility cargo bike and the child add-ons are just that - add-ons. They're well thought out (in my opinion) but they are still add-ons. My bike is a step closer towards the utility end of the scale. It'll haul 100kg of junk to the tip in one go, but it makes using child add-ons even more difficult and the Bullitt looks quite easy in comparison! If I knew that a few years ago when I got my bike, and if I knew how little time I'd have now for making custom parts, I probably would have got a bike which was more primarily set up as a kiddie carrier and hauling would have come second.

Thats a good point.

I am sure that packster 70 wont be ideal for awkward loads that are wider than the box; same issue with Bullitt with a canopy.

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my own fault - spent ages delaying filling out the interest free loan paperwork from the Energy Savings Trust.

Agree with points about cargo - the box in the r&m pacster 70 is non removable (the 60 and 80 models were removable) which is a real shame but we'll still own a car for bigger loads if needed. Reckon I'll only use the car a few times a month, hoping that car sharing takes off a bit more as paying all that cash for such low usage seems silly.

I'm not paying the builder to drive around so I went to the shop this morning to buy some 248cm long melamine.

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Could something like the Omnium Mini be electrified..?

Had to pick up wife’s desk from depot yesterday. Was very easy.

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I should have taken a pic but I got a 4-year-old, a Lego advent calendar and a Christmas tree in/on my workcycles kr8 this week no bother

@lowbrows @amey you probably posted it earlier int he thread but I missed it, have you got a link to that folding seat? Prompting me that it's what I need for mine and with enough brackets it'll probably fit!

have you got a link to that folding seat?

Its this: https://www.londongreencycles.co.uk/shop/accessories/bullitt-child-seat/

Someone gave it to me for free though. The straps are complete bullshit, have ordered 5 point harness.

Its excellent, only the 2nd ride today and kid fell asleep in both occasions, looking around, smiling.

Yeah needing both. Never mind.

Tern ones are quite narrow, 1.75" tyre max it says. There's a few places with 20" x 53mm Chromo/Bluemel but I'm sure I got a set of 20" x 65mm before. Really need to measure what's on the cargo bike.

Cool, thanks.

Noted re. the straps. I have a spare Hamax harness which might come in handy.

My colleague has a tern gsd and it uses 2.4” tyres, has 75mm guards iirc..

Man that R&M design detail makes Bullitt feel a bit home made. I think I should have got R&M to begin with, bullitt has minor inconveniences which will make me snap one day and fire the money gun.

Too much plastic and gimmick for me. I throw firewood, bricks, lawns tools, cement in my bullitt, then hose it down and toss kiddos in it. I wouldn't do that with an R&M. Too much plastic and expensive proprietary stuff

I do not understand the suspension fork given it needs to contend with such a wide range of loads. There's no way it can be comfortable for 75 lbs of children and then also support 250 lbs of cargo the next day. It's also one more thing to service or break.

I do like the cable steering though, but not for the center or gravity mystery.

fair enough

do you have canopy?

I will in about a week.

Suspension fork does have some benefits imo...

Undoubtedly makes for a much smoother ride for whatever (whoever) is in the front.

Some say it helps front wheel traction when braking, don’t think I’m convinced but it does compress when you brake, which might shift more weight down instead of straight forward.

Less likely to lose control of the front end if you hit a sudden pothole / bump.

Think it depends on how long the cargo area is as well- the longer the bike the more you benefit from the front having sus.

I wouldn’t want one purely from a maintenance perspective though. They are expensive to replace too.

I don't think I've ever felt like I'd lose control of mine, but there are some vicious lumps and bumps on the road to the tip. I could see how a well sprung front end might take a bit of the punishment away from the front end of the frame. But you're right, not sure how it would act in practice, given the very wide range of load weights it carries.

The cable steering is objectively superior. Under high load the frames of these bikes flex and bow over the bumps, actuating the pushrod steering mechanism back and forth back and forth. Cable steering is immune to this unusual wobbly effect.
It's not that big of a deal and it really only happens when the bike is heavily heavily loaded.

@withered_preacher - Weird wording sorry, I'm with you.

@gillies - How much you want to bet they went to install it the right way around and realized it contacting the leading exterior face of the box?