Cargo Bikes

It says it weighs 75kg empty and its massive, noones pulling that on the pavement

Lol, can’t stop watching these!

About 2 average people. Not nothing but feel like it's not a huge amount more than you could get away with on a 2 wheeled bike and certainly less than a van load.

UA can carry 150kg (on top of the weight of the rider and the bike) and are I imagine narrower / easier to maneuver.

Has been said already but weight to volume varies massively. You could easily fill up its storage box with large / awkward but light parcels way before you hit 120kg. a good reason to go for flat / open cargo loading areas maybe?

Think 2 wheelers are the best choice by miles. Do prefer DHLs cargo recumbent efforts to this DPD scooter thing

I climbed a hill. Slowly.

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Shit I'm overweight

Slowly.

Chill out, there's no rush! Nice view, where is that?

Norton Summit in Adelaide, South Australia. It's THE climb here, everyone does it.

Nice to see the Douze in action. If it looks like a gradient in a photo, it's a proper gradient in reality... Gradient + heavy bike = slowly indeed :) Great effort!!!

Probably a combination of big bones and rippling muscles I imagine.

Re: the DPD quadcycle thing, I wonder why they decided to build something from the ground up rather than adapting an existing design to their needs. We have a trike like the one below and another, larger, shitter, non electric trike that we use at work for really big/heavy runs that doesn't seem like it'd take up that much more space on the road but offer a much more useful loading space.

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I like that Douze .. its cheap too .. i guess for a reason (they are heavy)?

@pascalo can you give me a review pls?

@amey I love the Douze. Compared to a Bakfiets it's very light, and from the few goes I had on a Bullit I would say it's comparable in weight and speed.

The cable steering is great and makes for tight turning circles, especially when pusing and trying to get around bollards and the like. It tracks great in a straight line and you can ride it standing up easily, even with a kid in the cargo area.

I have the step through version with the 600 front bit. Step through might feel a bit more flexy than the non-step-through frame, but for me that's a non issue.
Size wise, being 186cm tall I am really pushing it here with the saddle all the way up and set back, but if you're smaller it should be fine. The steering column I have is height adjustable, but the seat post kept slipping with a quick release and my wife didn't want to ride it anyways, so I got a decent clamp.

The cargo area seemed a tad wider than the Bullit but waaaay smaller than a Bakfiet. The box is a Cordura outer which is fixed with velcro around some aluminium rails. There are clips around which hold in place a Cordura top cover. Super light and all pretty much waterproof when riding or parked outside. Inside there's a soft seat for the little one in it.

Cargo wise it's pretty capable. My daughter is about 22kg now and 1.20m tall. She has to pull her knees in but still fits very comfortably. Or a bit more crowded if we also carry some shopping.

I like the bike so much that for around town, it is my goto bike now.

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Amazing! I was looking at 400 version; because compact, couldn't find any child seat options ..

Also have you used the split functionality?

Do 600 ... 400 will be tiny. The seat is an extra bit that didn't come with the bike when I got it, same with the outer and cover.

Another weight reference: Normally I do Norton Summit at sweet spot in about 20 mins, with the Douze it took me 28 ... I doubt I would have made it up there on a Bakfiets.

The other thing I forgot to mention is the internal hub gears ... I don't think I'd get them again. They might be good for people that don't really put torque through, but I have had issues with slow/crunchy shifts etc, and am not smart enough to service an Alfine hub.
A 1x setup with an mtb derailleur would be a better and lighter choice I think.

I have split it, but that was for cleaning and fixing, not really for the transport aspect. It's super easy to do, yet the connection is rock solid.

@amey Are you looking for electric assist? Also, sorry to say, but they do have disc brakes ... just so you know.

Ha! Electric assist isnt a must now, my partner is getting a non cargo eBike so this would be mine.

600 argument is strong, will give dealer a call today.

I actually love alfine :p commute on one daily. The 8 speed one. Although i would prefer deralieur setup on this for the ease of taking wheel out with mudguards.

If you have any hill on your route with cargo on board, I'd go electric.

I can avoid hills ;)

London hardly has hills tbh, I'll just go ridic Sunrace cassette on the back.

Thank you, will call the dealer once they are open.

Will you just buy a fucking bike already! Get the Douze, it's clearly both what you want and need.

I am still waiting for my C2W voucher :( Nov pay-day apparently

Electric assistance is amazing and increases the utility of the bike by an an indescribable factor. You need to try it to understand. Think marvel comic "super human" strength.

Amey, we have a 600mm front end Douze and are based in West London if you want to know anything specific or want to test ride. We’re even considering getting a 800mm front end as our boy keeps growing!!! :) they are not cheap though. Ours was about the same price as the equivalent Bullitt, if not more...