Formula One ( F1 )

is there rumours that Liberty/F1 might "sack" the FIA and create their own governing body?

So exactly as leaked, RB and AM found guilty of "minor" breaches...

Everything I'd heard was that AM were in the minor category and RB in the major one.

It's ridiculous that there's nothing outlined in terms of repercussions of breaching the limits. Especially in a sport where there's a significant amount of bending the rules to breaking point.

Everything I'd heard was that AM were in the minor category and RB in the major one.

I think that was the initial leak, yes. But reports have been revised in the last week to both in the minor one, resulting in various sources trying to equate $$$ to time on the track (which is ludicrous). Horner's protestations of innocence now look a little silly. But then the tit-for-tat bickering over the last few years has made them all look silly. And the last thing the sport now needs is the inevitable appeal process. But it has rather made its own bed...

So much for Horners assertion that he was being defamed by Toto. 3M is a lot in such a tight season though, I can’t see this ending well… or at least it might encourage more teams to spend more and keep it under 5%. I read Merc had a 60M profit last year so they could afford the 4.9999% and a fine if it helps them in 23.

Yeah I mean I was fairly confident that the rumours would come to be (roughly) true, and never really understood why Horner decided to go on the counter-attack. Regardless of whether they breached the limits or not surely the best thing is to say that people should wait for the official verdict. But then unlike most top TPs, I'm not in the shit-flinging business.

But yeah, the FIA once again coming out looking the worst of the bunch (IMO) and likely setting a precedant for teams breaching the limits assuming the (potential) gains outweigh the (potential) punishments.

I mean if the punishment is a fine it's a bit ridiculous, considering it's a cost-cap regulation. Points deduction or even championship exclusion would be a more fitting threat. But naturally deciding this in retrospect is daft, this sort of stuff should've accompanied the regulations

It’s almost as if they left themselves the wriggle room to pick and choose on purpose, but are now hamstrung by it…

Points deduction or even championship exclusion

Didn’t Ross Brawn say something along these lines when it was first brought in?

On an unrelated point, I accidentally found the BTCC on itv3 yesterday (edit: or maybe Saturday?). Racing seems to have improved since the post-Audi-winning-everything era, when I last watched. Not quite back to 1990s levels of mayhem again. But an enjoyable watch for a little while with some close battles.

On the BTCC tangent, it was 30 years (and 6 days) ago that this classic moment occurred:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwsK5NU2C0

And on the ITV-viewable motorsport tangent, anyone catch the Moto2 race last weekend? Absolutely mental amount of rain going on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ7gH88V83E

“This is clean, the man’s an animal!”

Once went to see BTCC at Donington and went to use the toilet round the back of the pit garages 10 mins before the race started... ended up having a piss between Cleland and Derek Warwick with Nigel Mansell at the end of the line.

Now that IS a proper csb.

Was that the year he had a nasty crash under the bridge? Mansell, I mean.

Cleland clip was a YouTube rabbit hole. Kept me busy for the train journey though. Ta.

He did well at Donington I recall. I wasn't at the race at Brands later in the season as I was at Snetterton that day but I remember watching it on TV at the track. He crashed at Brands on the 2nd corner in race 1 (can't remember race 2)

Bit of a pet peeve, but what the hell is with the constant "five one hundredths of a second", sort of thing, even heard a "one one hundredth of a second" earlier. What's wrong with "five hundredths of a second"?

Gutted for Hamilton today. Good race overall.

Bit of a pet peeve, but what the hell is with the constant "five one hundredths of a second",
sort of thing, even heard a "one one hundredth of a second" earlier. What's wrong with
"five hundredths of a second"?

That gets me as well. Do they ever say: "three one tenths of a second"?

Awesome race, gutted for Vettel with that pit stop, but some amazing passes on the recovery drive. Speaking of recovery drives, fair play to Alonso too. Coming back from that crash to get 7th.

Also, most pathetic chequered flag wave I've seen in F1 by Tim Cook

On the flipside, I'm all for Shaq doing the trophy-giving each year

but some amazing passes on the recovery drive

taking magnussen on the final lap was amazing

gutted for stroll tbh. he was having a great race

gutted for stroll tbh. he was having a great race

Little sympathy for it over here. Glad he wasn't hurt but he deserved to be out of the race after that move.

+1

The guy definitely has a knack for seemingly being unaware of his surroundings

https://youtu.be/csEvcs8fo4s

I realise it's easy pickings, but fucking hell Sky F1 have some useless pundits. Tuned in for the end of P1, listening to Damon Hill commentating, arguing with Chandok that there's no importance in trying a qauli setup in this session, because Q1 is almost a like practice session in itself. Seemingly not knowing about parc ferme rules around how restricted the teams are on changes they can make once the practice sessions end.

I honestly think I'd rather listen to Paul Di Resta.

On the plus side, looks like the rain is rolling in, should be interesting for qualifying!