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Gotta admit, I don't know the context of this, but found it hilarious:
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He was talking about it when channel 4 interviewed him after the race. Apparently they have a diagram which shows exactly who has right of position when over taking and Toto was adamant that it proved lewis did nothing wrong.
The tone of Michael Masi's response was brilliant, the whole conversation had strong partridge vibes (if arnie played partridge in the US remake)
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Amazing, can definitely see this sort of conversation going on between Toto & Christian:
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Ridiculous penalty for that incident imo. 10 sec? ha
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The question that strikes me is what was the plan? Clearly it was to get past Max in the first lap before he could do what he did in the sprint race and pull clear. Was Lewis banking on Max then being unable to pass due to the high speed nature/low downforce requirement of the track making DRS less effective than at other circuits?
Just struck me as a bit underpants gnomes - 1. Pass Max 2.? 3. Win race
Which of course is not to say that passing Max wasn't a requirement for winning the race, I just didn't see how he was going to stay ahead of a faster car for the entire race, unless (as I mentioned) the speed differential between the two cars would be insufficient for Max to get past on the track or during pit-stops.
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Getting in front should allow you to stay there with two expert drivers in the fastest cars as the dirty air means the chasing car just grinds their tyres and slows due to degradation then has to pit earlier, or backs off in to clean air giving the leader free reign.
AFAIK this is fairly specific to Silverstone.
The plan was get in front at all costs before Max settles in to a rhythm and Hamilton wrecks his tyres chasing.
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pit him before Hamilton so he emerges in clear air and he could have made enough ground up that when Hamilton pitted Max would go into the lead. No?
Maybe, it would require Max to be significantly quicker than Hamilton from the moment he pits onwards to make up the clean air deficit, overhaul Hamilton then get some gap from him. The danger is that the early pit stop and subsequent super hot laps means his tyres die off catastrophically later on to point where Hamilton can overhaul him on track.
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Good video of what a 51G impact looks like from a deckchair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDPQQQWP_M
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My take is like others - Hamilton has been showing respect in the corners - knowing it's a long season hoping points accumulation may have been enough.
Clearly - that strategy was not working, so it was time to race harder -it was time to sow that seed of doubt in Max's mind that he wasn't going to be pulling out of 50:50 moves in the future.
Was it the best corner to make this point - clearly not - but it's not like he knew he could wait another half lap and make that point somewhere else. He was genuinely up the inside here. Hamilton will have said to himself before the race - If I'm in this type of situation I'm all-in. In racing terms there were four possible outcomes - three of which are ok for Hamilton. He sticks it down the inside and:
- makes the pass clean.
- takes max out and makes the pass.
- takes them both out.
- takes himself out and max races on.
If they both get taken out, we just role on to the next race with no change in standings- and Hamilton will still have made his point for the next 50:50 corner.
With the positioning at that turn, I'd say point 4 was the least likely too. In terms of overall odds across the options - it was stacked in Hamilton's favour .
The most important thing is that Max is safe and well, but to the spectator things have just got 100 times better. There is some real edge to this match up now. The next 50:50 corner will be very interesting! You love to see it.
- makes the pass clean.
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Pretty much my view too.
Caveat on the last point, I get that it's the job of the media to push these things to get people's eyes on the sport and keep the money rolling in, but the constant pushing personal rivalries thing gets pretty tedious. Combined with Netflix fabricating narratives to draw people in, and it feels like it's slipping more and more towards Eastenders at 200mph.
I'm very much looking forward to seeing how the season develops, as I was sure it was going to be a Red Bull runaway until this weekend. It's a shame we've got a snore-fest up next with the summer break afterwards. Roll on Spa-Zandvoort-Monza!
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Caveat on the last point, I get that it's the job of the media to push these things to get people's eyes on the sport and keep the money rolling in, but the constant pushing personal rivalries thing gets pretty tedious. Combined with Netflix fabricating narratives to draw people in, and it feels like it's slipping more and more towards Eastenders at 200mph.
agreed - you could almost hear the boners in the press boxes when the crash happened.
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Which of course is not to say that passing Max wasn't a requirement for winning the race, I just didn't see how he was going to stay ahead of a faster car for the entire race, unless (as I mentioned) the speed differential between the two cars would be insufficient for Max to get past on the track or during pit-stops.
It's quite possible he wouldn't have been able to stay ahead if he'd overtaken cleanly at Copse. But being ahead and trying to keep Max behind is better than being behind him in the first place. And it's not like he had a lot to lose.
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Regardless whos fault it was, Verstappen comes out as a dick in his latest Instagram post. Especially for the last sentence. Unless he's talking about himself being disrespectful for watching the celebrations in the hospital. Lol
First of all: I am glad I’m ok. It was quite an impact at 51G but feeling better
Obviously very disappointed with being taken out like this. The penalty given does not help us in any way and doesn’t do justice to the dangerous move Lewis made on track
Watching the celebrations after the race while still in hospital is disrespectful and unsportsmanlike behavior but we move on
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Max needs to learn a little from his own past. He's had more than his fair share of incidents. 2:50 onwards on this one show's two similar 'racing incidents' where he's taken the inside line before a collision occurs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkAoSghdD6Y
Let's not forget this embarrassing incident:
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Fantastic work from Kimi
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I might be out of order here, but does anyone else feel like Red Bull/verstappen/etc are really playing up the damage/hospital thing?
Totally. Granted 51G isn't ever going to be pleasant, but everyone else is expected to put up with Max when he "goes for a gap"
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Didn't stick around for the interviews but he does have a habit of putting his foot in his mouth at times. Though it pales in comparison to the job the British media do of making it difficult to be pro-Hamilton. Hearing the Sky folks talk about the possibility of a podium after the 10s penalty, and what a recovery drive it would be. With an outside chance of even winning the race!
Meanwhile his only competition is driving around in the 4th fastest (?) car with a spluttering engine.
I guess we should at least be happy that they're gushing over someone with a good bit of talent as opposed to an F1 equivalent of Tim Henman or something.
P.S. It's refreshing to have a fan who isn't blindly behind their chosen team/driver. As a Ferrari fan, it's been pretty easy, as they've been utter shit for the last decade at least!