Herne Hill Saturday Training

It looks mixed - and the track dries quickly. My money would be on "yes"

The coaches running the session will decide whether conditions are ok or not, but light rain is unlikely to stop play.

I went for the first time in 3 and a bit years today. Had a blast. Passed my induction. New surface is ace. The coaches where great and it was way way better organised than it used to be. Going to try for the 12-1 session for as many Saturdays as I can manage this year. Great fun.

Got my training accreditation booked for this evenings session.
Rain is forecast.. what happens? Is it likely to be canceled or what?

Can anyone give me a complete run down of the order of drills and roughly how many km is covered?

My legs are shot from a week of training in spain, worried im going to tire towards the end if its a long set of drills.

Track was damp when I did my training accreditation session and it went ahead so you might well be ok.

I logged 24 km during my induction over the course of an hour and the pace was not strenous so I would think you will be alright. Also they broke the exercises into two parts with a toilet break in the middle so that should give you a chance to have a blow if needed.

exercises - through and off, taking a lap, half lap changes and one I can't immediately remember. Nothing too tricky.

Induction = accreditation?
How many where in the group?

Nothing too tricky.

How many failed?

I logged 24 km during my induction over the course of an hour

I'm surprised it was that many. Maybe mine was slower but the pace seemed very quaint. It's definitely about smooth, safe riding rather than fitness.

I think it's very useful getting into "driving test" mode. Make it obvious when you're looking over your shoulder pulling off, looking to get on the back of a group, pulling off the track, etc., and very importantly swinging up the banking properly. (This was the only thing I remember anyone being called up on during the session, but only as a warning/advice.)

Also, if I wasn't sure about hand position I would err on the safe side and stay in the drops, particularly as it was a windy day for our one.

I went for the first time in 3 and a bit years today. Had a blast. Passed my induction. New surface is ace. The coaches where great and it was way way better organised than it used to be. Going to try for the 12-1 session for as many Saturdays as I can manage this year. Great fun.

You might get a little bored after while.

Induction = accreditation?
How many where in the group?

How many failed?

Good spot - it was the training accreditation not induction. No idea how many failed.

I'm surprised it was that many. Maybe mine was slower but the pace seemed very quaint. It's definitely about smooth, safe riding rather than fitness.

I think it's very useful getting into "driving test" mode. Make it obvious when you're looking over your shoulder pulling off, looking to get on the back of a group, pulling off the track, etc., and very importantly swinging up the banking properly. (This was the only thing I remember anyone being called up on during the session, but only as a warning/advice.)

Also, if I wasn't sure about hand position I would err on the safe side and stay in the drops, particularly as it was a windy day for our one.

Agreed on the distance. I think as much as anything it was driven by the fact that a couple of the drills took quite a long time. half lap changes and taking a lap both took what seemed to be a very long time to allow everyone to complete the exercise. So whilst the pace wasn't high we did a lot of laps

The driving test analogy is exactly correct.

Wrap up warm, you wont do anything remotely taxing and you will regret not layering up [/mum].

^this. Was bloody freezing the night we did it and you don't really ride fast enough to get warm properly.

packs extra base layers

shits pants

Okay.. while its fresh in my head.
Arrived 5 or so minutes late.. almost automatic fail.
burrr its cold....

First drill is riding in a single pack taking half lap changes on the front.
Second drill is the same only working in pairs with the insideman on the blueline, then pulling up into single file.
Third drill was a reverse chain gain
Fourth drill was working in a pack of four to catchup a lap on the main group.
Was really hard to hold the wheel on the man in front, lots of slowing and speeding up - really hard to read.

The pack was either not talking at all or over doing the calls.
Lots of concentration needed, especially in the dark and the cold.
Still worked up a bit of a sweat, was marked down on having my hands on the hoods, accelerating too hard off the front and not making my half lap changes directly on the line.

In the end tho... Passed.
:) see you saturday

Here are the stats from my computer (which by the way isnt allowed)
21.1km Distance
48:10 Moving Time
Avg 26.2km/h
Max 38.9km/h
Elapsed Time 1:32:09

Almost failed because of not looking when dropping onto the white.. Very rigid and strict accreditation .

Bloody freezing tonight - My nuts have only just thawed out now.

What saturday training session now requires the accreditation card?

The website is showing

10:00 - 12:00
Training Accreditation Needed

I understood that the earlier session was for non-card carrying novices and the intermediate session was afterwards?

But nothing is shown 12:00 - 1pm

confused...

As i understand it

10-12 Intermediate track - training accreditation needed

12-13 track skills - Induction needed

13-14 induction.

http://www.hernehillvelodrome.com/sessions_and_training/session_schedule/summer.html#sa

^that's it.

How much of a workout is track skills?
Although I have my card.. I probably don't deserve it, I just test well.

Pace really depends on the group and varies from week to week. When I started track last year I found there was a really big increase in pace needed to train effectively at inters (moving from track skills).

The advice I got from one of the coaches was to go along to a couple of the Monday night race training sessions to bridge the gap between basics and inters.

Doing the same this year and will probably promote myself to inters in a couple of weeks.

@ any coach or other who is SURE of the answer to my question:

I'm starting to get confused....

I've been riding what used to be called Basic (now Track Skills) for a number of years. Due to my low fitness level I've never really wanted to join the intermediate group, as I have posted way back on this thread a year or two ago. This hopefully will change at some point, but for now I just want to carry on riding with Track Skills until such time I feel I can get accreditation and roll with intermediates with enough speed and skills.

So: will I need to go through an induction again in order to carry on riding with Track Skills? I think I did it in about 2009. The HHV site is slightly ambiguous on this.

You only need to do an induction once (even if it was a while ago) and you can join the Track Skills session. Some riders may wish to go through it again if they passed many years ago and want a refresher before joining Track Skills.

Question for the Coach; I'm a regular at Inters on Saturday AM; my accreditation is not until 6th April; is it still okay to join the 10-12 session this Saturday?

@coachouse, thanks for clarifying.

Question for the Coach; I'm a regular at Inters on Saturday AM; my accreditation is not until 6th April; is it still okay to join the 10-12 session this Saturday?

Accreditation will be required for Intermediate sessions from April, so you are free to join the session this Saturday, 29th March.

@Coachhouse - thanks, that's great! Fingers crossed for a bit of sunshine.