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• #177
Doesn't matter much if you use straps with them.
I would probably get spd sl but already have some keos and a load of fixed cleats for them.
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• #178
Finally got myself some spd sl 105s. I didn't really see a large benefit for going to ultegra for a 2x price. Later I guess I'll upgrade. Now I need to get some shoes. All I have is sidi dominator mtb shoes which never see anything other than tarmac but I like to be able to walk.
Anyone tried Bont A-3? I'm thinking these will be my track shoes. What shoes are people busting out on the track? I cam never see anything on tv/races because of the overshoes
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• #179
My spd-r pedals are still fine after a couple of years.
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• #180
Anyone tried Bont A-3?
Yes, that's what I use.
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• #181
Yes, that's what I use.
Excelent, that's clinched it for me. I'm off to mosquito bikes tomorrow to try some on. Annoyingly my measurements put me at exactly the 45s but they say you need a few mm to move so I'll try to get 46 which, last time I checked, they didn't have. They said I could try on some A-1 to get the sizing.
RPM, did you use the size chart to choose your size and if so, did you find that their advised method, measure length up against a wall and then add 2-3mm worked out well? Also, did you need the 'fat feet' versions or were standards ok. I think I may need the wide versions but I thougth that with sidi and found that they just didn't feel right and kept the standard models.
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• #182
IIRC I drew around my foot and measured, which gave me the size, think I was using the guides on Bont's website. In any case they are a 45 which is what I take in nearly all shoes so the sizing seems pretty standard.
The heat moulding process makes a bite of difference so if you try some on make sure they are tight but not actually touching the toe. Width was fine I don't have massively wide feet and again the moulding made them fit better across the width. -
• #183
Sounds, good. I didn't make it to mosquito but I'll be along on monday so I'll be ready for my calshot training in march
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• #184
latest mod, not properly tested yet
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• #185
latest mod, not properly tested yet
Looks good! I'll have a nose at the weekend.
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• #186
gonna bang some nylocks on there tomorrow to avoid doing a "gizmond" with the parts!
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• #187
Looks good mate..
Bit of advice for ya..If you put the back loop further back it actually tighten the pedal on the cleat..All the set up youve got there is doing is routing the straps and you "could" still pull out...doubtful but possible..
My SPDRs are set like that can do a pic if you want
latest mod, not properly tested yet
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• #188
That's exactly how it does work though, the rear strap pulls up underneath the plastic bit which locks the cleat in. It's not the best picture, but if the strap was further out the back it would miss the pedal altogether.
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• #189
Pity about the speedplay management's misbehaviour, they remain the fitter's favourite pedal, for the simple reason that they enable a fitter to get the foot to where it needs to go. All the other systems suffer from the vagaries of the shoe manufacturer's ideas of where to put the holes.
I see more "problem children" biomechanically speaking - and I'm sure my clients are in no way representative of the forum's denizens but I depend on speedplay pedals and the associated hardware to get riders feet in the right place:
- backwards-forwards (possibly with the addition of a fore-aft extender)
- in- out (possibly with one of 5 axle lengths)
- in rotation (with steplessly variable stops at both ends of float)
- in cant (with wedges)
- possibly in stack (with shims)
It's not a hard system to set up but if you've never done it before you might read the instructions- they supply them with each set of pedals.
They go on any shoes with a 3 hole (LOOK std) drilling as well as the occasional 4 hole shoe. In the 3 hole configuration, you need to use the 3 hole baseplate which is supplied with each set of pedals. In this guise, the stack is slightly less than a Keo as far as I remember.
- backwards-forwards (possibly with the addition of a fore-aft extender)
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• #190
I always wanted to try Speedplay on the track, but by the time I had the money to do so I had moved from SPD-R to SL's and couldn't justify a set of track specific shoes
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• #191
is anyone still using slotted cleats? I got some Yoshida cleats that work with modern shoes, have yet to try them
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• #192
tried them, they work great
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• #194
Yep, training buddy uses them
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• #195
Got my first pair of clipless pedals which came with floating cleats, (shimano 3degrees)
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• #196
Non-floating cleats can be bad for your knees if not set up perfectly, especially over longer distances. I've read that the red (non-floating cleats) can be trimmed manually to give custom amount of float. I've never tried this though ... Most people stick to the yellow ones.
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• #197
But cleats without float would be just like having clips&straps. It's usually fairly easy to find the correct position
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• #198
Cleat float is for roadies.
And MTB'ers.
Thread over.
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• #199
Most people stick to the yellow ones.
Urm... Wrong.
Remember you are commenting in the track forum.
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• #200
Yellow ones? SPD-SL?
These are great IMO, not sure about their sprinting capabilities though.