Bike fit / correct riding position

Tx, see that's something concrete :)

As I asked what an objective measure is of functional flexibility in the context of cycling (as I am clearly too stiff to do ballet) this may work.

For example: You put feet against wall, then if you can't touch something that sticks out that x% of your leg length in your picture position you need to stretch, a lot, and now.

(though that makes it dependent on relative arm to leg length again...sigh...)

went out for a ride - in the drops & tried to hover my hand, learnt that the only thing stopping me going forward is my hands holding onto the bars. What does that mean?

Saddle back. Maybe.

This, and/or saddle angle (nose down = sliding forward).

If you have a question about bike fit and can't afford to go and actually get a pro to do it, then go read Steve Hogg's site. He gives detailed walkthroughs of every possible aspect of the bike fit process - cleat position, saddle height/setback etc etc

The link below will answer all your saddle setback questions:

http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/seat-set-back-for-road-bikes/

YES I'M SORRY FOR POSTING THIS TWICE

YES I'M SORRY FOR POSTING THIS TWICE

repetition lol

Username_Username should have been a clue ;-)

@edscoble will definitly try saddle back - although ive already tried this before.. maybe needs to be really far back on a layback post. Saddle is flat atm, not tilting saddle up, tried that before and any slight upwards tilt gave instant numbnuts. Potentially as I was still sliding forwards - into a tilted up nose.

cheers, mu_mu, will have a read.

Then @dubtap is right on the money, just push it a tiny amount and ride until it feel more planted.

You may have to get a shorter stem to compensate as this will increase the reach a little.

For the 3rd time: Are you riding in the hoods 90% of the time?

For the 3rd time

ogod

What happens if you have to ask for a 4th time?.........

Then Candyman comes after you.

Like in that film.

Mel Gibson was the best in that

75/80% at a guess?

and no hugging occurs

Shorter stem

Nah. @apc, when you move your saddle back make sure you also move it down to compensate otherwise you'll end up sliding forward.

of course.

Riding a 48cm frame im going to struggle to get the same amount of setback as someone on a 60cm frame though aren't I?

A taller person may required more setback than a shorter person, I would says it's about the same, the exception is that some smaller frame have a very steep seat tube, that even if you set it back right at the end of the rail, it may still not be enough.

The best solution I've found is the Velo Orange setback seatpost, due to the short clamp, allow a massive 40mm setback, the other is simply a saddle with a longer rail, that may not be an option as saddle are extremely personal and not everyone would like to tinker with it.

thats what I mean ed, steeper st making it hard to get enough set back. Will try clamping all the way back to where youre not meant to on the rails for a ride and see.

How can I make sure that if I buy certain stem length and angle it will replicate the fit on my other bike .. essentially I need 525mm to 530mm stack and 380mm to 382mm reach on the frame NOT including stem/bar set up.

I am very comfortable on FM066 with slammed 110mm 7deg stem and short reach (70mm) bars. This frame has 380mm reach and 519mm stack.

Madone gave me fit issue ysterday mainly because I rode it after a month or so it has 547mm stack and 379mm reach. The bars were too close to me for the elbows to be relaxed. The set back is spot on on both bikes. How can I replicate the FM066 position? I have same bars and hood shapes on both.

Do you own a long spirit level?

The FM066 reach is longer because you slammed it, and the Madone is shorter because you have shitload of spacer on it bring it closer to something like 375mm.

yes (x2)

Measure saddle to BB distance (horizontally), if you have the same saddle that is.

Then measure saddle nose to centre of bar (on stem clamp).

Perfect; thanks. Yes same saddle. Will do it tonight.

Months ago scheritt said I need 486mm saddle to bar ..