Time Trial / Time Trialling / TT

Everyone gushing on TTF about Magic Mans time from last night. No one has the bollox to ask about the 3cm rule (I certainly don't).

I've never given it much thought before, but the 3cm rule is clearly a load of guff... Aside from any debate of exactly where the 3cm line should be drawn, I'd say around a quarter of the field are borderline over 3cm (sensu @mdcc_tester) including several of the fast looking guys.

I can't embed, but which one is Steve Irwin?

The rule is to stop people riding in a superman position isn't it? Magic Man isn't in anything near a superman position. Ian's position in the 100 is more superman even though he's probably within the 3cm rule due to heaps of saddle setback or a long frame or something (there was some chatter on TTF about that too).

Don't think he raced the Swift event? Trek SC, Catlike helmet, 60t single chainring.

This is the most aero guy in the UK

Ah yes, my bad.

I know about Mork, he often rides the same local club TTs as me. In fact comparing myself to Mork was a bit of an epiphany for me in terms of how important aerodynamics are. I'd only recently bought a power meter and I averaged 288w for a 23:52, Mork won the event with 20:42 off 313w.

Up until then I had always thought power was king, but that race really emphasised to me how much aerodynamics matters.

Have you read Topham's book? That was what started me thinking about teh aeroz.

What's the longest event Mork races? I'd probably run straight into a car or something if I held my head that low.

Not yet, but I'd like to at some point.

Don't think he does over 10s. Tops is also very aero, especially considering his shoulders.

Is that why he started using the POC?

Turns out it is very aero, on the right person.

Like every other lid, stupid looking or not :)

Apart from the Bambino...

They're fine, if you're on closed roads and can drop your head completely.

The rule is to stop people riding in a superman position isn't it?

I don't think it is, because you can ride superman and be inside 3cm if you build the right frame. Although they may have had it in mind, I think the real effect of the rule is to keep tiller lengths down to controllable levels.

This is the most aero guy in the UK

Also flagrantly flouting Reg.14.d.(ii)

Since the site is new I can't find what that is now... sigh

This is why everyone should ride bikes with 60cm top tubes, no worries about breaking the 3cm rule that way...

Since the site is new I can't find what that is

It's the 3cm rule

Or just sit behind the BB, in the way god and nature intended.

It would be really interesting to put my powertap on there...

I don't think the chain would bend far enough, chainline on the tandem in 46.5mm

Nice try on the fishing @umop3pisdn

You're more brave than me, you're also faster than me :0)

Have a 8.5 mile lumpy TT tomorrow. Have purchased a set of Tri bars this week. I'm pretty new to this, any dead on tips to get me a few seconds?

1. Don't go off too hard
   
2. Don't go off too hard
   
3. Don't go off too hard
   

It's 8.5mi... go into the red and stay there until you finish.

Practice with the TT bars lots before tomorrow. Lack of confidence can easily make you slower than on drops or pursuit bars.