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  • I've got a 10 on Sunday. Will be riding the road bike.

    I just realised that my PB for 25mi is at a faster average speed than my PB for a 10mi. Something very wrong with this.

  • http://www.thehippy.net/nucleus/index.php?itemid=1589

    Finished the report. Blah blah blah

  • So, in the 24 and 12s I lose mileage. In today's 10 I'm sure they knocked a whole minute off my time.
    23:08 was the timesheet but my file looks much more like a 24:08. Both are PBs for me (I know, they're shit times but I never train for short TTs).

  • I was really pleased with my 24:09 10 :(

  • Go and train like hippy has been doing and you'll be rewarded. :)

  • You don't want to do that, you'll end up going slower over that distance

  • 23:08 was the timesheet but my file looks much more like a 24:08.

    I expect the arithmetic will get corrected when the official result is published. Was that the Combine 10 at Gt. Missenden?

  • I thought readers of this thread might like to see my press report for this event, particularly since Fast Eddy (see attached picture) came a very creditable fourth. It clearly wasn't a fast morning, so when considering the times, don't be misled by Nic's outstanding ride.

    Incidentally, Nic is due to test he ability on fixed later this month when he goes for the Hounslow Club Hour record on Reading Track. The 29th is the date booked, so let's hope for a calm dry day.

    Hounslow & District Wheelers Report – 19th September 2011.

    **Hounslow & District Open 25. **

    The Hounslow always tries to win its own open promotions, although in recent years the successes have not been quite as frequent as they were in the past.

      Last Sunday’s 25 saw the club back to its old ways with Nic Stagg carrying off the overall victory and leading the club to a team win with Rob Gilmour and Damian Poulter as the supporting counters.
    
    It is clear that Nic pulled out something special on Sunday since his qualifying time was three minutes slower than the fastest man on the start sheet, Paul Mill of Team Edwardes-Elite Cycling who finished second. ‘I’d felt a bit sluggish during the week, but this morning I felt good all the way round’ he said after the result had been announced. However before the result was known there was tension, and although club members who had been marshalling assured him that he had had a small lead all the way round, Nic had to force himself to go to look at the result board when the times were put up. He came back crestfallen - ‘He’s done me by five seconds.’ His supporters found this hard to believe and went to check.
    

    “No, Nic – you didn’t read it properly, you’ve done *54.*45, he’s done *55.*40, you’ve got it by 55 seconds.”

    The Ladies prize went to Rachael Przybykski (Charlotteville), who improved her personal best by almost three minutes. This was only the third time trial she has ridden this year since her main interest is road racing, and she has already won the 2011 Crystal Palace Ladies Circuit League. This is another example of the maxim that to do well in time trials, you should ride road races.
    

    The event was held on the Farnham-Alton course and attracted 80 entrants. It was efficiently organised by Bruce McMichael.

    Result:

    1. Nic Stagg ( Hounslow & District Wheelers) 54 minutes 45 seconds.
    2. Paul Mill ( Team Edwardes-Elite Cycling) 55.40
    3. Niall Digby (La Fuga –Sigma Sport) 56.18
    4. Jonathan Lewis ( Charlotteville) 56.32.

    Team: Hounslow – Nic Stagg, Rob Gilmour (58.59) and Damian Poulter (1.01.19).

    Ladies:

    1. Rachael Przybykski Charlotteville 1.05.58.
    2. J. Wadsworth De Laune CC 1.06.20.

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  • This is another example of the maxim that to do well in time trials, you should ride road races.

    Yes, you only have to look at Dr Hutch to see that. Oh, hang on...

    It's really an example of how classy road racers can usually turn their hand to short distance time trials without much specific adaptation training.

  • Przybykski

    Chris, Rachael's surname is Przybylski.

    Nice report, thanks.

  • Przybylski.

    One of her clan once tried to teach me how to pronounce that. The second half is much easier than the first.

  • You don't want to do that, you'll end up going slower over that distance

    Yep, I could go a lot faster if I trained for 10s. The long stuff is no good for the much higher power you need.

  • I expect the arithmetic will get corrected when the official result is published. Was that the Combine 10 at Gt. Missenden?

    Think so. It started in Gt Miss.

  • Did they have clever ways of making you go faster?

  • probably been posted elsewhere, but in case not. The World TT is streaming live on the BBC right now:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cycling/14975894.stm

  • Chris, Rachael's surname is Przybylski.

    Thanks Oliver. I did have doubts about the spelling, but all I had to go on was the start sheet - I went by the old proof reader's maxim 'Follow the copy even when it blows out of the window.'

  • Finally went under the hour with 59:44, taking 2:20 off my PB for the HCC114 course.

  • Now you just have to hold that speed for 12h :-)

  • Club 12hr record speed is ~36.6kph so I can afford to kick back and take it easy :)

  • I thought you had ambitions beyond just your club.

    Good ride to get under on the CC114 though, those Westerley boys who just pipped you today have done 56s on the fast R25/3 course this year.

  • I do, but only in terms of national placings.
    There's no way I'd get anywhere near 541mi or 303mi or whatever it is for the 12hr.
    I'm keen but I'm realistic. Then again, Wilkinson was 47 so I have some time up my sleeve (no talent though).

    Malc is usually a minute or two faster than me so to get that close is pretty good (and unusual) for me.

  • I do, but only in terms of national placings.

    Have you considered aiming at the top 12 of the BBAR?

    Speaking as some one who knows only too well the conditions under which you did your 240 mile first ever 12, I don't think this would be a stupid ambition.

    By current TT standards you have youth on your side, and I'm pretty certain you will improve next year. However I think team support would be almost essential for this project - I'm not thinking of money from sponsorship, but the benefit to morale which would come from having other riders with you, and from the possibility of gaining team prizes. Experienced helpers can also be highly beneficial.

    My own club's record of team wins in the BBAR, although even the most recent of these is now some time ago, is a good example. We worked very much on a team basis - our riders would train together and enter events together. Sometimes a rider would flog himself into the ground to try to get a team win. Have a look at the results in the back of the CTT handbook.

    Good luck next year!

  • I only vaguely understand BBAR and from what I know it requires lots of travelling around the country to ride lots of courses hoping to get good days on fast courses.

    Why top 12? That seems like an odd thing to aim for. Top 10 or top 5 I could understand. :)

    Team: I have a great support crew but no one stupid enough to ride events with me.

    I've literally got the handbook open now looking at what's left for this year and when the 24 is next year. I'll see what I can find about the BBAR.

    I'm not riding any 77T chainrings though...

  • 26.446mph team
    27.202mph indiv

    average speed over 50, 100 and 12hr

    1:41:27 50 mile
    3:36:55 100 mile
    292.49 mile 12hr

    That's a lot faster than me, currently.

    12th in BBAR is also a lot faster than me:
    1:46:10 50
    3:48:24 100
    272.73 12hr

  • Since I'm here posting about Hippy's efforts, I'll post what I've just written about our 25. Sorry there's no single gear interest here, although our ladies winner says she intends to try training on fixed this winter. Her 4 hour 28 minute 100 earlier this year has filled her with enthusiasm to attack our ladies' 100 record which has stood at 4.26.10 for the past *forty *years.

    Hounslow & District Wheelers Report.

    Autumn Club 25 Mile Time Trial (25.9.2011)

    Fresh from the Tour of Britain, Wouter Sybrandy was always likely to be the winner of the Hounslow Autumn Club 25. He duly came up to expectations with the fast time of 55 minutes 31 seconds.

    However Nic Stagg and Paul Holdsworth (second and third) showed themselves to be at least on a similar level to the elite Sigma Sport rider by finishing within about one and two minutes of him. It should be remembered that most club riders do not even consider the possibility of a sub-hour ride on the tough West of Windsor course, and yet here we have a select group who are only concerned with how much under the hour they will be.

    Rob Gilmour comfortably won the Veterans’ Standard prize, and an on form Jill Bartlett was best of the ladies with 1.11.38.

    The handicap award to a promising ride by Andrew Caldwell, but perhaps the really outstanding achievement here was the skill of the handicapper, Martyn Roach, whose predictions were so accurate that six out of the thirteen Hounslow riders finished within the same minute on handicap time.

    Apart from club members the event attracted a further thirteen private entries from members of other clubs. It was efficiently organised by Neil Ferrelly.
    Wouter Sybrandy retains his second claim membership of the Hounslow & District Wheelers.

    Result (leading places only):

    1. Wouter Sybrandy 55.31
    2. Nic Stagg 56.56
    3. Paul Holdsworth 57.47
    4. Rob Gilmour 1.02.06
    5. Brent Skinner 1.04.48
    6. Mark Silver 1.06.04
    7. Dave George 1.07.02.
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