The RIP thread...

megabummed

I've never been a Bowie fan, but he was an exceedingly good record producer.

I can count on one hand his tunes I rate - I dunno, to me he seemed to just have mates in emerging scenes/the underground, then he appropriated their style - bit of a magpie who got away with it

RIP David Bowie (1961 - 1989)

+1

but, rip bowie

aye for sure though still

First musical memory is my dad playing a 7" of Space Oddity. RIP

berlin trilogy . low , heroes and the lodger 1970s nobody else was there but he got into krautrock , he stuck his neck out and tried things no one else contemplated ! produced lou reed , iggy pop albums that are amongst the greatest, sure when you are a star you can make friends and get "ideas" but he went further than most and always tried new things
RIP

Lodger is my favourite - anything past 1980 though can do one

+1000 for Low, Weeping Wall and A New Career In A New Town are my all time fave Dbowies

All musicians worth their salt are magpies. As Damon Albarn once said, it's simply a question of knowing who to steal from, but very much easier said than done.

That said, I'd be curious to know who you think Bowie was ripping off when he recorded Station to Station or Low or Heroes or Lodger?

He was competent to a satisfactory degree. Long life and prosperity to the state!

HISTRIONIC
He does that very well

i agree ... he took ideas and talented musicians put them together in unusual places (berlin 1970s) songs about neukoln 40 years before any british hipster had ever heard of it . cluster are apparently are the inspiration for low / heroes , eno worked with them before bowie ...

http://youtu.be/vAX5hiKXnFg

:(

cluster

But does Low or Heroes sound anything like Cluster, because the A sides of both sound nothing like each other? [Side 1 of Heroes sort of carries on where Station to Station left off, whereas the first side of Low stands in isolation amongst Bowie's repertoire.] Not that I'm taking you to task - just curious.

i dont know i saw a BBC documentary on krautrock and cluster were interviewed, they claimed eno had stolen ideas from them and used them with bowie . can't remember which track but it did sound very similar .....

Thanks for the info - I'll have to give come Cluster a listen.

Child killer Robert Black.

Hopefully not in Peace though.

Was he in STEPS as well?

Goodbye Otis Clay.

It's a bad time of year for musicians.

I doubt that anybody really cares, but it appears that Eno worked with Bowie before he worked with Cluster - Low was made in January '77, Cluster & Eno in June '77. (Obviously, Eno worked with Bowie again afterwards, but side 2 of Heroes isn't much different in approach to the second side of Low.}
In any case, it appears Cluster are a sort of ambient band, reminiscent to my ears of Orbital, Kraftwerk, and even Jean Michel Jarre to an extent. Their influence, then, on songs like Sound & Vision, Be My Wife, Joe the Lion, Heroes, Look Bank in Anger, Red Sails, etc. etc. could only really boil down to some of the production effects Eno may have employed on them.

Yeah, I can be a bit of a bore when it comes to music...

Very sad about Bowie - in the age of celebrity, keeping that quiet must have been difficult. I admire the way he dealt with it and the new album certainly feels different now.

If he's been putting messages in his music, I wonder how long he knew for. Has anyone else noticed that the drums at the end of Feel So Lonely You Could Die on The Next Day are taken from Five Years From Ziggy Stardust?

I know that was only three years ago but cancer's an arsehole.

Eno worked with Bowie before he worked with Cluster...

Nah. At least a couple of years before working with Bowie, Eno played with Harmonia (both members of Cluster, plus Michael Rother of Neu!) on tour; and in 1976, Eno recorded an album with them as Harmonia 76, Tracks and Traces. Obviously all before Bowie's Low.

In any case, it appears Cluster are a sort of ambient band, reminiscent to my ears of Orbital, Kraftwerk, and even Jean Michel Jarre to an extent.

Lolled at this.

Has anyone else noticed that the drums at the end of Feel So Lonely You Could Die on The Next Day are taken from Five Years From Ziggy Stardust?

Nah, they're quite different.

I'll have another listen. Maybe the voices are playing tricks on me.

Also, if anyone needs another reason to like Bowie, he refused a Knighthood.