Dozy c**t near dalston junction

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    how?? you're on a bike, not a car! you can't expect driver to do what you want them to do.

    just cycle safety is all it take, look back a bit more, use hand signalling more, slow down gently, not quickly, do not weave in and out of traffic etc.

    and top rule - always assumed that every vehicle on the road is being driven poorly, that will save your life than expecting a vehicle to be driven properly!

  • Yeah, winston - you're so naive about cycling on London's roads.

  • how?? you're on a bike, not a car! you can't expect driver to do what you want them to do.

    just cycle safety is all it take, look back a bit more, use hand signalling more, slow down gently, not quickly, do not weave in and out of traffic etc.

    and top rule - always assumed that every vehicle on the road is being driven poorly, that will save your life than expecting a vehicle to be driven properly!

    No, Ed, you can expect a driver to do what you want them to do. This is because (a) you're both people; (b) you can be assertive if you're not in a car; (c) it takes communication--a two-way process; (d) it is not necessary to assume that every vehicle is being driven poorly--as that is simply not the case! For a good summary of the right attitude to take, read Cyclecraft or simply realise that excessive caution will likewise not be the best advice. Caution, awareness, yes, but let's not over-egg the pudding.

  • Sorry, should have made that clearer. You did say that you felt ashamed for not wearing one. Don't be.

    Thanks :)

  • how?? you're on a bike, not a car! you can't expect driver to do what you want them to do.

    just cycle safety is all it take, look back a bit more, use hand signalling more, slow down gently, not quickly, do not weave in and out of traffic etc.

    and top rule - always assumed that every vehicle on the road is being driven poorly, that will save your life than expecting a vehicle to be driven properly!

    Thanks for the tips, as a newbie it is exactly this kind of info and advice that keeps me coming back to these fine pages...

    +1 to nearly everything Oliver says.

  • The traffic has been bad this week. "Must drive more" seems to be this year's resolution....

  • Never happened to me. Fucking outrageous.

    Next time it happens go to the back of his cab and take down his PCO number - that's the number on the white plate, not the registration number.

    Then make a formal complaint to the PCO (Public Carriage Office: https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/contact/pco/default.aspx). If you don't come over like a self-righteous cyclist, they will take a complaint very seriously, and cabbies have been known to be disciplined (fined whatever) for unsocial behaviour.

    Do it. And if you can get a witness, more's the better.

    We've been over this before. The PCO do jack shit in response to complaints from cyclists and other road users. They will only respond to complaints from passengers of cabs.

  • +1 couldn't have put it so well myself

    We know.

  • sorry is that a sen10ce or a fragmeant. you must probly be tha most borin guy in the whole entire world.

    (i spelt it like that so you could fix it and repost it)

    you remind me of an old teacher of mine, but he wasn't a prick and was actually funny

  • Read a book. Any book.
    The Highway Code would be a good start...

  • surely with all your amazing knowledge you could come up with a better comeback, no guess not.

    any recommendations?

    "grammar for dummies" maybe?

  • surely with all your amazing knowledge you could come up with a better comeback, no guess not.

    any recommendations?

    "grammar for dummies" maybe?

    Since when did knowledge equate with wit?
    "Steven Hawkin - he's a fucking scream..."
    "If only Bernard Manning was still with us we'd have cracked world poverty."

  • i think you'll find there is a g at the end of hawking

  • Gee!

  • Reminds me some quote from Lichtenberg about books: " A book is a mirror: if an ass peers into it, you can't expect an apostle to look out" ...

  • Gee!

    go back to your public school im not interested in your "wit"

  • go back to your public school im not interested in your "wit"

    You are starting to intrigue me. Do you sell flowers in Covent Garden? Is your old man a dustman? Do you fancy a day at the races?

  • Platini, there are occasions when you are a patronising and sanctimonious old fart…

    A man of your age picking on the yoots, sheesh!

  • i think he's jealous of my youth

  • lots of people are jealous of your youth - that's why you keep him locked up in a cupbard

  • Never happened to me. Fucking outrageous.

    Next time it happens go to the back of his cab and take down his PCO number - that's the number on the white plate, not the registration number.

    Then make a formal complaint to the PCO (Public Carriage Office: https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/contact/pco/default.aspx). If you don't come over like a self-righteous cyclist, they will take a complaint very seriously, and cabbies have been known to be disciplined (fined whatever) for unsocial behaviour.

    Do it. And if you can get a witness, more's the better.

    I've had a black cab and some private vehicles run into my back wheel.

    As for the PCO, they do nothing with traffic incidents.
    http://www.londonfgss.com/post36559-57.html

  • ^ Did you go to the police?

    I know you wouldn't get any immediate satisfaction in terms of punishment whatever, but do you think it's worth reporting dangerous drivers?

    Would it be the case that when the police get repeated reports of dangerous driving by individual drivers they take action on that?

  • Thanks for telling me btw, I thought they took it more seriously. That is not good.

  • cupbard

    That's a nice new word for a busker.

  • um - remember that generally a car braking in front of the car behind would show brake lights, and we don't have any such way of communicating our drop in speed.

    Except "mirror, signal, manoevre". Or over-the-shoulder look, in our case.

    The times I've had near misses from behind, it's been when I couldn't signal (braking plus steering over rough ground/potholes whilst keeping an eye on oncoming traffic whilst looking for small gap in lorries and cars to turn right in).

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