Which Groupset?

Are you gonna send your frame back to Ryan to get all the braze on removed?

Whats the trade price of etap?

Etap installation is a piece of piss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQc8wGnF-Tk

Not got official numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if it's £1400+ for the full groupset.

£1400 is ludicrous.

Retail is £2k and judging by the last time I saw the trade prices, back in 2013, there isn't a huge margin in it.

Still ludicrous...

I'll let you know for sure when I eventually get enough money together to buy it.

Don't you find cables reassuring?

Oh yeah, I wouldn't not have a cable geared bike.

etap seems unfeasibly 'cheap' at 1180£ RRP
http://road.cc/content/news/161555-sram-launches-red-etap-wireless-groupset

Brakeless!

Can install ETAP but evidently, not a straight saddle FFS

My front derailleur is fouling the mudguard by about 1.5mm. Which braze on adapters hold the mech furthest forward on the chainring?

As in, towards the front wheel.

No cranks or brakes

If you...allow the rear mech battery to run out, you can swap the front mech battery on to the rear, foregoing front shifting for the journey home.

Good move - I love Campagnolo but there's no way they would do that.

You upshift at the rear by pushing a paddle behind the right brake lever. You downshift at the rear by pushing a paddle behind the left brake lever. You move the front mech by pushing both paddles at the same time.

Usually advise against that as it may actually affect shifting.

What about putting a spacer on the chainstay bridge to move mudguard away from it?

Cut the bastard.

Or file off the section that the derailleur is hitting.

eTap is a bit fugly, and remember the 1st draft of anything is usually shit

http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/279865/#comment12718489
This DA 7800 crankset would be a straight swap for my Tiagra 4600 right? As in, I could move the chainrings across from Tiagra to the DA? They're the same BCD but I dunno if there's some crank magic I dunno about.

This DA 7800 crankset would be a straight swap for my Tiagra 4600 right? As in, I could move the chainrings across from Tiagra to the DA?

Yep

It won't space any further as the tire is already tight under the guard.