Which Groupset?

11spd seems to be a complete bugger to keep working well. One of the reasons i stuck with 10

Seems to be a combination of grabby weight weenie cassette, and oval chainrings. Means I need to have the rear mech further than I would expect from the cassette. Which is fine once you realise this.

When it is dialed it is supreme. Big click feedback from the lever, and zero feedback from the fast and smooth mech.

11spd seems to be a complete bugger to keep working well. One of the reasons i stuck with 10

Piffle.

I've had a perfectly functioning 11 speed set up working for 3 years now with minimal adjustment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1qz4OB5Rs&feature=player_embedded

Interesting. Wonder how the range compares to the Alfine 11.

The issue of loss of power through a never-quite-straight chain isn't mentioned. Shimano should.

The issue of loss of power through a never-quite-straight chain isn't mentioned. Shimano should.

Might answer your question, might not.

https://www.lfgss.com/thread16289-48.html#post2904533

http://www.ihpva.org/HParchive/PDF/hp50-2000.pdf

tl:dr (well not all of it).

I suspect the answer that matters is:
Yes it matters, but not much and not enough to stop it selling.

There are loads of resons for wanting a 1x set-up (dont ask me if they are good or not).

Less chain suck.
Less chain drop at the front
mMore ground clearance
Simpler gear range
Lighter weight

I have a 11-36 XTR 10 spd cassette, shortcage OX rear mech, Sram 900TT lever (mounted on paul thumbie), custom SS 31T chainring, and BB mounted guide. All waiting to be put on my heavily delayed Fatbike. It was pretty darn top of range when I got it together FFS!

Also no mud buildup around the front mech is a massive bonus for UK conditions.

Piffle.

I've had a perfectly functioning 11 speed set up working for 3 years now with minimal adjustment.

Fair enough, good for you. I did say one of the reasons. I'm an enthusiastic mechanic, but not a great one - indexing can be tricky and I'd heard from several people it can be more so on 11 spd.

Main reason was cost: cost of switching groups on two bikes, cost of cassettes and lack of chain options. I also just don't need it, what I've got works fine now.

..... I also just don't need it, what I've got works fine now.

If I lived by that ethos. All my bikes would have Deore commuting groupsets.

pff..it's more of a vague guide than an ethos... all my bikes would be fixed if I subscribed to it 100%.

I'm all for having nice things, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere (in my bank account)

Its a balance.

I could give a shit about milliseconds/watts saved. I go by smile faktor.

Bombing to and from work on parts that are either bombproof or cheaply replaced is fun. The lack of worries makes me smile.

Heading out on a dry evening, on the very best gear I could get my hands on, also makes me smile.

I used the search, nothing came up that was recent.

Looking at the Ribble winter bike, it comes with the options of Shimano/Campy/Scram for the groupset, all at a similar price.

Want something that i wont have to worry about really. Im coming from MTB, so have used Shimano and Scram stuff, both enjoyed.

Any thoughts? (and i know most of it is just personal choice)

chose the hoods that you find most comfortable

probably a 2nd or 3rd tier groupset as the parts will be cheaper than top tier parts (Red, Dura Ace etc)

though my commuter will be using some DA parts I had in the parts bin, the bits I have bought new are all ultegra

mavic zap

It's also worth bearing in mind that at the cheaper end of the market, "groupset" usually means shifters and deraileurs. A closer look at the specs often shows FSA chainsets, Tektro brakes and no name hubs irrespective of whether it's Shimano, SRAM or Campag.

Groupset? Fixed. Next.

i thought it could remain separate as it was groupset for a particular function

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Groupset? Fixed. Next.

The commute will be from Esher (past Kingston) into Kings College.. 30miles each way, 4 days a week.

Thinking that gears will be helpful!

its flat, so gears may not be needed

The commute will be from Esher (past Kingston) into Kings College.. 30miles each way, 4 days a week.
Thinking that gears will be helpful!

This says 18mi each way. Is there another Kings?
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=kings+college,+london&daddr=esher&hl=en&ll=51.43325,-0.235519&spn=0.136983,0.363579&sll=51.395385,-0.296385&sspn=0.068548,0.181789&geocode=FQnqEQMdoEn-_yEvRlJfMyopEinh1GaWtQR2SDEvRlJfMyopEg%3BFQ_WDwMdmWr6_ym1NWRTHeB1SDG0-E1fKaL21w&mra=ls&t=m&z=12

Either way, once you adapt to the distance you don't need gears.

Anyway, commuter groupset: 105 or Ultegra