Running

Another +1 for Run and Become in Victoria. I have high arches and penguin feet, but they still sorted me out. Believe me, you don't want the pain of Plantar Fasciitis to deal with. Asics ftw.

I've run semi-seriously since 2004 (enough to train seriously for races). I was supposed to do the 2008 FLM, but got injured a month beforehand. I have a place in the 2009 though, and the proper training starts tomorrow.

I feel I have more freedom cycling, because I can go further, but running's easier to do throughout the year, regardless of weather. I find marathon training hard though, because it's just so fucking oppressive - you WILL run 10 miles today at a slow pace (when you feel like a fast 10k), or you're forced to do a 2 mile jog when you feel like having a crack at your 20 mile time. Bastards - I was almost glad I got injured...

profeet in fulham were good - did the whole running on a machine/ videoing your gait bit before I bought any shoes
the thing that always gets me is they say on training runs you should be able to hold a conversation - this never happens, I'm always to bolloxed trying to breathe through my eyeballs

Oh, I can talk alright.. but it will mostly be

"why.. the fuck... am I doing this.. stupid fucking... exercise... shit... I... fucking hate.. running..where's.... my fucking... bike?!"

It gets easier - most people go out once and hate it, because they spend half the time panting and knackered. Once the fitness builds it's as hard as you want it to be.

I've never found anything to beat the runner's high - nothing.

You don't take enough illegal drugs.

no offense to you hobo, but i don't understand why people who don't run at all would want to run a marathon.

i just don't see the attraction in running a marathon and taking 5 hours. personally, if i didn't think i was a realistic chance of breaking 2:50 i wouldn't even bother. so i don't bother.

this is the track racer in me coming out. i like running because i like moving fast, not slogging away for hours on end.

Yeah but you've got to remember that "marathon" has a pretty powerful mental tag associated with it, yeah? I mean, these days a one-legged 77 year old can run one but there's still something cool about saying "I've run a marathon". Well, there would be if I'd run a marathon :)

I only run when chased.

Yeah but you've got to remember that "marathon" has a pretty powerful mental tag associated with it, yeah? I mean, these days a one-legged 77 year old can run one but there's still something cool about saying "I've run a marathon". Well, there would be if I'd run a marathon :)

exactly, anyone can do it, so it's not a real challenge anyway. apart from coping with the boredom, which i spose is admirable.

maybe i'll change my mind when i'm old and slow.

yeah but half the challenge of running is going regularly, for a lot of people the marathon is a suitable carrot and stick to get them out regularly.

While I'm no expert I would have thought six months is plenty of time if you already ride fairly regularly and stay injury free

It gets easier - most people go out once and hate it, because they spend half the time panting and knackered. Once the fitness builds it's as hard as you want it to be.

I've never found anything to beat the runner's high - nothing.

+1
Thought this was bollocks, before I upped my distances a bit.

It feels like that bit in ET when they all start flying.

Wait a sec they were on bikes...
...erm feels great anyhows.

no offense to you hobo, but i don't understand why people who don't run at all would want to run a marathon.

i just don't see the attraction in running a marathon and taking 5 hours. personally, if i didn't think i was a realistic chance of breaking 2:50 i wouldn't even bother. so i don't bother.

this is the track racer in me coming out. i like running because i like moving fast, not slogging away for hours on end.

I need something to work towards to keep me motivated. I cannot run just for the sake of running. I started canoeing because in the summer I wanna canoe down the Thames (http://www.londonfgss.com/thread11994.html) and I started climbing because I wanna do witness the fitness (chris sharma climbing witness the fitness Video by empty cistern - Myspace Video@@AMEPARAM@@http://mediaservices.myspace.com/Services/Media/Embed.aspx/m=3125771@@AMEPARAM@@mediaservices@@AMEPARAM@@myspace@@AMEPARAM@@Services/Media/Embed@@AMEPARAM@@aspx/m@@AMEPARAM@@3125771) one day.

I like the sense of freedom you get being able to things unaided.

no offense to you hobo, but i don't understand why people who don't run at all would want to run a marathon.

i just don't see the attraction in running a marathon and taking 5 hours. personally, if i didn't think i was a realistic chance of breaking 2:50 i wouldn't even bother. so i don't bother.

this is the track racer in me coming out. i like running because i like moving fast, not slogging away for hours on end.

Its a mental thing. Physically my body does'nt want to go further than say 18 miles. The last 8 are all about winning the inner dialogue.
Sometimes I wonder if its possible to do yourself a mental injury, although the fact that I think of it as a 'inner dialogue' probably means my heads broken already.

Its a mental thing. Physically my body does'nt want to go further than say 2 miles. The last 1 are all about winning the inner dialogue.
Sometimes I wonder if its possible to do yourself a mental injury, although the fact that I think of it as a 'inner dialogue' probably means my heads broken already.

fixed :)

exactly, anyone can do it, so it's not a real challenge anyway. apart from coping with the boredom, which i spose is admirable.
maybe i'll change my mind when i'm old and slow.

For coach potatoes though it must be a pretty cool goal and if it gets them doing something other than watching shite tv every night I'm all for it. I don't like the idea of trying to bang one out after only 6 months of running though. I was having dreams of doing one when I was running a bit and yet I knew I was nowhere near being able to do it and not be a total mess. If I do one, I don't want to walk it because my body failed me through insufficient training. I want to finish a 'thon as fast as I can (which will still be slow but I don't mean like 5hrs of walking slow). Anyway, I since lost interest in doing it.
I did an unofficial half when I got new shoes.. and then spent the next month going to the physio to fix me :S

The marathon distance is, in a way, a bit silly. It was never actually designed as a good distance for people to run.

Half marathons are far better in my opinion as I can actually attempt to race a bit (against my own times admittedly).

The marathon distance is, in a way, a bit silly. It was never actually designed as a good distance for people to run.

Half marathons are far better in my opinion as I can actually attempt to race a bit (against my own times admittedly).

+1. the human body is designed to be able to run for approx. 18miles. After this distance your old friend Mr.Lactic starts to get rough and serious!!

Theres lots of marketing bollocks about running shoes, cushioning, support etc. Take a look at what the elite Africans train in, you dont see no thick 1" cushioned heels because they mainly run mid or forefoot so the foot, ankle, knee and hips all share the impact rather than the heel.

I get a much quicker 'buzz' from my 'running' (more like jogging) than I do from all the cycling miles I put in. But I've never had a cycling related injury(yet!).....whereas running nearly crippled me after my 1st marathon in 2005. I'm now 'training' for the 2009FLM, and my maximum weekly mileage will not be more than 15 TOTAL. Loads of cross/strength training and a whole heap of HTFU on the day and then I'm retiring from the marathon circuit and settling down to plod 2 or 3 times a week.

Moderation Hippy, take it nice and easy.

is this thread not a bit disrespectful to the non-runners on the forum?

ha... in my height of training the FLM 2 years ago, i started from running for 15mins. time based not distance. So 7 and a half mins away from my house then back.

the point at which id turn around got further and further.

till i switch to doing distances... 5 days a week morning or evenning and sometimes both depending if i fancyied it or not.

8miles, 3mile alternate...

the 8 miler incorporated parts of the actual marathon... which was a great idea.
the canary wharf section which is about mile 18, was my 3 mile mark on my 8 mile training section. So mentally i had another 5 miles to go.

the 26miles is mind over matter and a good bit of HTFU.

i also before actually doing the marathod signed up for a warm down 10K for the BHF. Which after 26miles was a fucking breeze... i think i clocked my fastest 10k ever of 40:42mins.

I'd love to start running again, but always i got too much on...

watching the seasons change and the distance you can cover with nothing but your two legs moving beneath you is one of the best things ever.

oh... and equipment wise +1 to the runners needs recommendation. I spent £78 on a pair of ascis.

i recommend trying 3 or 4 different shoes at varing prices... the differences are amazing and i insist that you buy running socks there the business...get 3 or 4 pairs if you plan on running 5 times a week and in terms of sizing get a size bigger as over longer distances you feet swell!

hipps i've got a few books which are good for motivation and training if you wanna borrow! pm me up!

is this thread not a bit disrespectful to the non-runners on the forum?

Racist!

For internet couch potatoes though it must be a pretty cool goal and if it gets them doing something other than typing shite on bike forums every night I'm all for it. :S

Fixed ;D

oh... and equipment wise +1 to the runners needs recommendation. I spent £78 on a pair of ascis.
i recommend trying 3 or 4 different shoes at varing prices... the differences are amazing and i insist that you buy running socks there the business...get 3 or 4 pairs if you plan on running 5 times a week and in terms of sizing get a size bigger as over longer distances you feet swell!
hipps i've got a few books which are good for motivation and training if you wanna borrow! pm me up!

Cheers Shins but this is definitely not the level of running that would require training info. I've read a bit back in the day but I'm only doing it now for a giggle whilst making sure it doesn't slow me down on the bike too much.

It did this morning :) but the first run after a long break is always the worst.

Fixed ;D

Forum typing is 'recovery' time or work time.

Cheers Shins but this is definitely not the level of running that would require training info. I've read a bit back in the day but I'm only doing it now for a giggle whilst making sure it doesn't slow me down on the bike too much.

It did this morning :) but the first run after a long break is always the worst.

yeah... sounds good mate. getting the feet moving and generating a bit of power and stamina is great. Whats your route? try putting a section of stairs in there...

oh i dont know if you know of this site too... but check it out.
like gmaps but for running.

http://www.walkjogrun.net/index.cfm

I started doing a lot of running last year (from a base level of zero) to train for an endurance race which was 150 miles of running, mountain biking and kayaking through snowdonia. Worked out at about 20 miles running (including up and over Snowdon and Cadair Idris) , 15 miles kayaking and rest on a MTB over three days.

I really enjoyed it but started to get some pretty serious knee pains both running and cycling. Having physio at the moment to improve things because a lot of my knee bits are inflamed, but I think the problem was ramping up my running too quickly when my leg muscles were very biased towards cycling and so some of the running muscles were either too tight or under developed.

My advice is to ramp up the distance slowly and do lots of stretching!