Running

yeah, the sleep thing gets confused if I wake up but don't move. in general though, stats like the HRV do correspond to if I'm feeling refreshed or not. Takes weeks to get enough data for some sort of baseline though, the first few weeks don't give much that's useful.
I also found I had to wear it all the time. If I just wear it when I run then things like race predictions are all over the place, presumably as it doesn't really know resting HR.
When I wear it during the day and to sleep then it does seem better.

I really like it/think its insane how much data it can generate but think I'm going to get slightly obsessive over some of the numbers.

Off topic but had a sports massage today for the first time. Oh WOW I thought I was supposed to feel better afterwards, he's crippled me - calves/shins are so sore (he told me it might happen and not to worry).

Oh WOW I thought I was supposed to feel better afterwards, he's crippled me - calves/shins are so sore (he told me it might happen and not to worry).

Hopefully he told you to drink plenty of water too? I found that the best thing for recovery after sports massage.

the problem with wearing a garmin all the time (and the reason I remain tempted by Whoop) is that I like wearing actual watches and sleeping with a garmin on sucks.

New 945 has arrived today, so no longer have to manually enter runs into strava or suffer a watch which tells me I've run twice as fast and two days before the day I was actually running

Yeah he did, I've been doing so. Hoping tomorrow is a bit easier. Combination of DOMs from gym two days ago and this means that my legs feel so battered on what's supposed to be a 'rest' week. Will try a little shakeout tomorrow.

It's taken a good 3 weeks or so to go from feeling broken when my watch (or my exercise program) says "Do X" to feeling fresh and good when my watch says "Rest" despite my exercise program saying "Do X".

Admittedly my training is split across running, static bike, swimming, 5-a-side and some core strength stuff (although the watch never "sees" the latter), and it only really suggests what I should be doing for running.

some finishers?

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Benign year weather-wise.

Controversy: After runners 1 & 3 went past first book clockwise a 'day hiker' collected it and took it back to camp. Runner 2 (anticlockwise loop & eventually first to finish) still needed his page from it for completeness but somehow they all worked around this. Presumably there could be no shortcut from penultimate book to the finish that would have worked in his favour.

Really enjoyed following along, was rooting for Damo and Jasmin. I'm confused whether Damo was serious about this tweet though? Damo was runner 4 so would have been CCW too so should have been coming to the missing book last, not first???

Edit: he was joking!

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Would love it to be live streamed, but I guess that would take away from the spirit of it.

I’ll ask here:
I would like some headphones / earbuds for zwift and sitting in a swimming pool while my kids train/swim.

Are over the eat better and which ones ?
£100 MAX
£50 better

For exercise, I'm all about bone conductiin headphones, rather than in ear / over ear. Because sweaty.

Aftershokz are a bit spenny, but I reckon there are knockoffs / cheaper alternatives around.

Do they make you look like you’re in the matrix or do they make you look like a sniper from a hitman movie?

I just got some random cheap ones from eBay or Amazon. £25 or so. I too use them for Zwift and for blocking out a lot of the screaming.

Something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/SoundPEATS-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Lightweight-Headphones-Bright-Black/dp/B07M5GN59W?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Yeah they’d do the job I think

Pegasus and peg turbos 1/2 price if your looking still
https://www.sportpursuit.com/catalog/product/view/id/2677472
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Any patella tendinitis experience?

I appear to have (touch wood) got over a hip problem and then sciatica (helped along with a massive dose of steroids shot into the spine). But the knee injury I picked up from doing the physio exercises that were supposed to help the hip tendonopathy is proving difficult to get over.

I’ve a minor tear in my meniscus but hasn’t bothered me for a few years, which may be part of this.

Physio is good - knee specialist still works mostly in NHS (so treating injuries rather than lifestyle coaching) - but Im making slow progress. Going to see a knee surgeon on Wednesday (the chap I saw when I had the meniscus problem); he’s surprisingly anti-knife for a surgeon though.

Any experiences to share? Extra points if you had a cortisone injection (which I think is my next option).

Sorry not much to share, except I do a variety of squats, split squats and single leg drops off steps/stairs to maintain knee strength and tracking.

Care to expand on your hip tendinitis? I get a pain that runs from hip flexor, over the top of the pelvis and around the side to the lower back. I think I overdid the hip flexor stretches late last year and hasn't healed up...

Yeah, I’m pretty good with the exercises to keep on top of a couple of other injuries - my staples are dead lifts, single leg press, single leg calf raise and a variety of squat, glute and core things.

The hip tendinopathy was just off the back of no excercise for a couple of months (travelling with work, travelling with family, sore tight back after London Sydney flight) and then straight into running distance. I did a few long rough off road runs and ended up with an intense pain deep in the hip. Really felt like around the joint, rather than deep glute pain.

Tried various things to no avail, saw a physio that reckoned it was piriformus syndrome, so worked on that for a while. Then went to a sports doc that suggested it could be a stress fracture. So hard stop to any excercise beyond stretching and core till I had an mri (which was a few weeks out cause work).

By the time I had the MRI the hip pain had pretty much gone to be replaced with sciatica. MRI said no stress fracture, hip looked fine - possible remnant of tendinopathy, but now we have a mild disc prolapse.

So back in the gym doing lots of single leg stuff at the direction of the (now swapped out) physio, and I pop my knee.

A couple of months go by of loads of gym work both for sciatica and the knee, without seeing much improvement on either. So I opted for a caudal epidural (steroid into the spine) which solved the sciatica immediately, and the knee for a week.

If you can glean any lessons from that then happy for you to share them!

Injury advice. Started running recently, doing the Nike Run Club half-marathon plan, running 3/week (intervals, recovery, long.) Ran a first 15k last Friday, maybe a bit fast but feeling good. Then last Monday after 10min comfortable running my left calf starts to hurt, gradually but fast. Tried running slower but had to stop and was hurting when walking back home. Didn’t run for 5 days, did gentle stretches and standing calf raises. Almost a week later, I still feel my calf when regular walking. Should I rest more or go back to running? Anything else to help with this?

Calf strengthening - a common benchmark is to be able to do 30 single leg raises, both bent knee and straight knee. If you can’t manage that then perhaps make it your priority before running again

E.g. https://youtu.be/_CmbMbI519o

If it's the medial gastrocnemius, I've had similar.

Everything is fine, but then it feels like it's been stabbed, and anything over a slooooow jog pace is all but impossible.

The pain was due to it being overworked - having lost a lot of muscle mass from my legs (having dropped from 200 miles a week on the bike to between 30 and none), I was no longer benefiting from sheer leg strength to protect me from a lack of control. My knees would bandy about with each foot strike, and the calf would have to do way more work than it's happy with.

Rehabilitation was a combination of strength work and neuromuscular conditioning

• Single leg squats (very assisted with a chair / wall / band), making sure that my knee was not moving sideway, lots of balancing type work. Among others:
  
• single leg hopping / bouncing between quadrants of a cross (forwards, backwards, sideways, diagonally), again focusing on keeping everything tracking straight.
  
• reverse lunge, pausing at the bottom, pulsing calf raises on the front leg (sometimes banded), keeping weight on knuckles of first and second metarsal-phalangeal joints.
  
  

Caveat - your problem may be totally different, and doing these things could make your leg drop off.

I don't really have anything to help. But I had High hamstring tendanopthy, then sciatica then HHT again went on for nearly two years. I feel your pain, physical and emotional. I got lucky to find a fucking amazing doctor who I trusted and he got me through it.

I don't really go to physiotherapist any more, I go straight to a muscular skeletal specialist these days. I'm sure there are some great physios out there but hey ho. When you got big fucking issues you need someone that can MRI and sort it.

I don't do any weights now. Dangours.

Cortisone injections don't really fix things, just mask problems. I've been heavily advised against them previously

I’ve got some tenderness in my right lower iliac - didn’t hurt running this afternoon but is now sore. Anyone experienced this before?