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• #12752
Run dem and their ilk (specifically run pack berlin) seem quasi religious in their fervour.
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• #12753
You guys have more than one pair of running shoes?
n+1 yeah.
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• #12754
Anyone here a big user of compression socks etc?
I've had mild but recurring shin pain in one leg for about 5-6 months now and heard they might help. I asked my physio at work and he said he had no opinion/experience about their effectiveness..
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• #12755
^They're very expensive - they have to use special machines to get all the oil out of the snakes.
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• #12757
Lots of pairs cos there are many shades of red.
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• #12758
@user49586 fervour of what exactly (asking as a member of run dem and friend of a lot of members of run pack)
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• #12759
I wear them to keep my legs warm in winter because I'm a big soft jessy and also because it makes me look like a footballer (see also: short sleeves and gloves). Haven't noticed any change in how my legs feel. Hope that helps.
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• #12760
You guys have more than one pair of running shoes?
Of course. Normal running shoes for training and "races" (the latter being the forthcoming marathon or summer parkruns). Trail shoes for the quagmires found round the back of Wimbledon Common (and autumn/winter/spring parkruns). Plus a spare pair of each in case a pair spontaneously combust just before an important run. Actually, the spare pair is more so I've got a dry pair of shoes if I do another run the day after a wet run.
I'm looking at 18 on Sunday. Longest ever run ever!
Same here. Putney to Richmond and back along the riverside path. gulp
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• #12761
Steady. No offence meant, what little I've seen (support at RTS and various marathons) is that they are very intense, not for me but each to their own.
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• #12762
sorry that sounded more outraged than I intended.
It's hard sometimes for others to understand why we tend to be more overt in our support/celebrations than most running groups without knowing a lot more about what goes on behind the scenes and what a lot of our members have gone through to get to the point where they are running a marathon/ultra-marathon in the first place for any number of economical, social, gender, racial, health issues. We go just as mental for our 6h marathoner as we did the guy running a 2h48m because our whole deal is the running is not really the important part, it's just the common thread that creates the social group we are all part of.
Also generally I think a lot of traditional running clubs memberships tend to skew to the older runner, whereas these groups are full of motivated young people so naturally the enthusiasm and exuberance is going to be higher in everything they do anyways.
and personally I can't stand the masses of miserable old gits you get at races who act like being there is the worst thing in the world and sneer if anyone so much as looks at them.
as @TW calls them 'mass-start participation events' are all about running a course with thousands of other people, with people standing on the sides cheering you on, if you're not going to enjoy that aspect of it why are you even doing it?
for every complaint we get from a club runner who thinks we're ruining the blessed traditions of 'their' sport, the number of people who get in touch with us after races we've been cheering at to thank us for the support is overwhelming as we don't just go to cheer for our mates then fuck off we stay until the last people come through and we support every one of them. even if we're out there cheering on our own with our mum.
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• #12763
I do like to save some weight for racing shoes, but when it comes to the marathon distance, comfort is so important, even if you're running for a time. It's a mental slog and if you're conscious of the calves going with a few miles to go, it's just another thing to make the voices command you to "slow down"! I guess the Glides are a similar weight to Cumulus but because they feel nice and springy they could make a good marathon shoe, as they may help delay the feeling of fatigue.
I think I'll be wearing them for VMLM where I'm doing a 2:59 pacing job for Runner's World. Should be that bit kinder to the calves than the Boston Boost.
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• #12764
"old gits you get at races who act like being there is the worst thing in the world and sneer if anyone so much as looks at them."
Have we met? ;)
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• #12765
haha, I have plenty of my own beligerent days trust me.
was just digging through some of the RDC youtube videos and this is a good indication of what it's really about behind the instagram hashtags. the post vmlm medal ceremony for one of the youngster who came through the run dem mentoring program to run his first marathon.
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• #12766
I wear them to keep my legs warm
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• #12767
Cool I will watch that after werk.
Although my emotionally stunted upbringing eschews all public displays of emotion, in fact any display of emotion ;)
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• #12768
No love for winter tights? Fleecy lycra goodness!
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• #12769
Oh to have the space for that many shoes!
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• #12771
Achillies feels fucked. Felt fine for the entire 19mi last Sunday, but it kills even walking half a mile into town.
Think I may stop worrying about the Mara training, forget the 3:30 target and just see how it feels in just over a months time. Gives me a chance to actually get back on the bike for a change.
@philpub didn't you have some Achilles issues recently?
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• #12772
Yes, and although I'm back running it still niggles, so lots of stretching and strengthening going on. (Except I keep forgetting to do my heel raises. Naughty.) It's a lot better than it was.
It's a bit of a bugger and I'm not sure there's a magic way of dealing with it, other than a trial-and-error combination of the following:- Don't run!
- Run, but not too hard, and avoid hills. (Too much pressure on toe-off.)
- Lots of stretching, particularly calf (particularly the soleus/lower calf), but also glutes, hamstrings. Including the foam roller, full length of the calf.
- Strengthening: my physio has got me doing heel drops, progressively loading (reps/weight/off a step or incline board).
Play it by ear, do some cross-training and re-introduce running if it feels OK, have a day's rest before the next run, etc. I'm literally just about to get on the foam roller, to give myself a chance of getting through the 20 miler planned for tomorrow morning.
Good luck!
edit Best strengthening exercise is heel drops. I mistakenly typed heel raises originally, but it's the very slow drop of the raised heel that has the best effect.
- Don't run!
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• #12773
...well that went better than expected. 20 miles on the button, 10 miles out and back mainly along the river, 7:25/m. No complaints from the achilles, legs held out well, and the most uncomfortable part was running into a head wind with very cold rain around Woolwich and the O2. Porridge and honey went down an absolute treat. And did I mention I love my new shoes?
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• #12774
Planned on 22 miles, probably similar route to @PhilPub. Around the O2, into London along the south side of the river then back along embankment and home via Canary Wharf. Seems a week off skiing hasn't helped a bit. Was slower than my last 20mi and my knee was complaining a lot at the end so I abandoned the last couple of miles. Sitting here with a knee support on at home now. Bit irritating. Hopefully the new trainers will come with extra magic.
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• #12775
Thanks for the tips Phil. I think I've ran about 4 times in the last 3 weeks, so it's definitely getting a rest. I'll dig the bike out, do regular heel drops and try to have a positive outlook.
Well done on the 20mi both of you! In contrast, I spent the day at a children's farm. To clarify, a farm aimed towards children, not where children are being farmed.
Was considering these. Nowhere near as quick as you (would like to go under 3.30 for London) so thinking it might work as a marathon shoe (and I don't really have a different shoe for race vs training). Currently using Asics Gel Cumulus.