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also, http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm.
and more importantly check out Slavo Zizek's book The Parallax View, he's already done all the evidence finding:The deciding date in the history of anti-Semitism is September 26 1937. On that date, Adolf Eichmann boarded a train in Berlin en route to Palestine, in order to meet Haganah underground activist Feivel Polkes and discuss with him the "mass immigration of German Jews to Palestine.
The meeting ultimately took place in Cairo because of decrees by the British Mandate. And still, this event apparently serves as the utmost testament to the common interest between the Nazis and Jews: to implement a type of ethnic cleansing that would fundamentally change the proportion of ethnic groups in the population.
Are we content with that?
Platini, Reculver: anything else I can do for you?
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I cringe at using a site called Jew Watch as reference but it's not an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist blog, it's just some reviews of literature surrounding Zionism.
Jew Watch
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jew Watch is a controversial website that describes itself as “The Internet's Largest Scholarly Collection of Articles on Jewish History" and as “a Not-For-Profit Library for private study, scholarship, or research.” The site is widely categorized as an antisemitic hate site.[1]
The site became notorious in April 2004 when it emerged as the first result in a Google search for the word “Jew”. A scandal in 2006 involved solicitations for donations to aid victims of Hurricane Katrina being redirected to Jew Watch. -
Fucking terrible shit, all of it.
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After the passing of the Nuremburg law where Germany's jew were designated non citizens and refugees it is quite possible that the Jewish 'repatriation' to Palestine was discussed. However to suggest that the Jews were somehow in league with the Nazi's is offensive nonsense.
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http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1184614595/bctid6336078001
This is the latest faux news going around. The controversy concerns the doctor performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation CPR. Decide for yourself if you think it phoney.
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Well you could desist from posting poisonous lies, that would be nice...
How is what I'm saying a poisonous lie?
It was a failure on my part to quote from that website, it was the first time I had seen it and it seemed to be relevant. Quoting form Zizek seems fair, I'm not saying the zionists were in support of the nazis, far from it, I'm saying that there was some form of collusion between the two over the matter of repatriation for Jews. How is what I'm saying insidious?
I'll apologise for using that site for citation, the two former quotes about it being a non profit scholarly...etc made it seem reputable. Sorry. In just as much I'm not saying that 'Jews' had anything to do with the nazis other than being fucked over by them incredulously. I'm saying that members of the Zionists held said talk with eichmann.In the current conflict both governing bodies are to blame for the situation they've worked their way into. The heartbreaking fact is that in both sides there are people who want it to end and "want to be able to see beauty in the world again".* I can sympathize with both sides and resent your comments reculver. I never said that they had been given a state, I'm saying that the idea of an area of the USA - accordingly known as states - given to the Jewish as their own was one idea brought up and rejected. If anything I've said seems poisonous, false or anti-semitic I'm sorry, there was no intention of that. Platini, can you explain to me what seems so poisonous about my statements?
Also, I'm pretty sure the Holocaust happened, there's the irreputable evidence of the millions of dead Jews, right?
Finally, in quoting myself "Other one was that the Zionists never really disliked the Nazis" I do sound like a total tool here. Sorry.
I believe that the fault on both sides is the sense of nationalism that the governing bodies on either side seem to hold so closely to their hearts. A two state solution is never going to work and the only possibility of solution is the absolving the two states into Palestine allowing both israelis and palestinians to exist in the way many were prior to the establishment of the state of Israel.
In the short term Hamas need to stop being idiotic cunts and firing rockets blindly into Israel and Israel need to withdraw and stop killing.
I'm dumbfounded as to why their doing it as well, can anyone figure out a motive?*Taken from an interview with a palestinian worker in a bbc report a few days ago.
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Also, I'm pretty sure the Holocaust happened, there's the irreputable evidence of the millions of dead Jews, right?
You are damn right, my son's great grandfather was taken from his farm in Poland and sent to Auschwitz III Monowitz where he worked as slave labor in the IG Farben sythetic rubber factory He was lucky he was a catholic. The Jews in his village where dragged out and shot in the street.
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Also, I'm pretty sure the Holocaust happened, there's the irreputable evidence of the millions of dead Jews, right?
You are damn right, my son's great grandfather was taken from his farm in Poland and sent to Auschwitz III Monowitz where he worked as slave labor in the IG Farben sythetic rubber factory He was lucky he was a catholic. The Jews in his village where dragged out and shot in the street.
I've never really spoken to my guardian about that period but the one time we did I found out that they were polish and his father was Jewish. His mother and himself got out safely but his father was killed. It was a short story and, heartbreakingly, one that you hear such a lot.
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I'm dumbfounded as to why their doing it as well, can anyone figure out a motive?
The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter. Following are highlights.
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory). "The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. " "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." -
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I've never really spoken to my guardian about that period but the one time we did I found out that they were polish and his father was Jewish. His mother and himself got out safely but his father was killed. It was a short story and, heartbreakingly, one that you hear such a lot.
Your guardian, are you an orphan or something?
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Is this for real? how do you make the sun look so big?
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The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter. Following are highlights.
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory). "The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. " "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."Sorry, I meant the motives for Israel continuing to push into Gaza. I don't see what they're gaining from it.
[I][/I]Your guardian, are you an orphan or something?
Yeah, cancer's a bitch. Orphan doesn't ever seem right these days. I've always directly associated it with the artful dodger, who I don't share almost any characteristics with. Although over the course of my time at the square I had charcoal black feet though.
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TEEW this is exactly what you posted COPY and PASTED
The fact that the Zionist organisation was offered a state of the USA post-WW2 and refused it due to their want to get Israel back is an example of why it's fucked.
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TEEW this is exactly what you posted COPY and PASTED
The fact that the Zionist organisation was offered a state of the USA post-WW2 and refused it due to their want to get Israel back is an example of why it's fucked.
you dont what your talking about cos you dont know what your writing.... you SCHMUCKWhere have I slipped up here though!? By thursday I'll have the book and person I need to get you the facts for that statement but I hold by it.
I'm saying that an area of america was offered and rejected, citation coming.
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teew: I meant the motives for Israel continuing to push into Gaza. I don't see what they're gaining from it.
I suppose because the rockets haven't stopped.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123171179743471961.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
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i read that this morning what a brilliant article from the WSJ.
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I wouldn't know reculver. If you can find the minutes for their chats please share. I'm not saying Zionists thought killing all Jews was well posi. I'm pointing out that it's a fact that there was collusion between the Zionists and a selection of fascist groups, the Nazis included. I'm pretty sure the discourse between them went on prior to the holocaust. However much I dislike Zionists I don't think they have it in them to collude with people who are systematically slaughtering their own race. Why so averse to everything I say rec?
I'll just give you the wikipedia entry for Deir Yassin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
I cringe at using a site called Jew Watch as reference but it's not an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist blog, it's just some reviews of literature surrounding Zionism.
This review of 51 Documents highlights the major points:
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-germany-hitlers-jew-support.html