Football

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/daniel-sturridge
44 from 242

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/luis-suarez
41 from 308

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/fernando-torres
84 from 419

My response would be -

He is a goalscorer - the only way to judge him is on his goalscoring record and that proves that he is very good.

There is an argument that one should use another player who is a better all rounder (and 99% chance, a bigger physical presence) than Defoe. The author does his credibility no good at all by writing a piece that basically says 'Adebayor is the answer', when it is absolutely clear a year down the line that Defoe is a better option alone up front for Spurs than Adebayor, even though Adebayor has the physique for the role and Defoe doesn't.

That is a ridiculous answer. You cannot play in the modern game and only be judged on the merits of ONE facet of your game (i.e - goal scoring). Imagine if someone said "xxxx is a tackler, and can only be judged as a tackle maker", or more relevant; "The goalkeeper is a shot stopper, and can only be judged on his ability to stop shots".

Plus, you are taking Chalfie's reference to the statistics in the article (which relates purely to Defoe and not to the authors point about Adebayor) and skewing the whole discussion.

Though obviously, we're not sure when shots were started counting.

These stats would be better if shown as a %. But then you'd need to factor in minutes as well to avoid defenders looking the best with their 1 shot that happened to go in over the course of 10 years.

Defoe, 128, 512, 25.00%
Bent, 107, 404, 26.49%
Sturridge, 44, 242, 18.18%
Suarez, 41, 308, 13.31%
Torres, 84, 419, 20.05%

So not only is he a buck toothed racist, Suarez is also shit.

Thank fuck Arsenal didn't spend £40,000,000.01 on him.

If we can draw the conclusion that Suarez is shitter than Defoe from this data, I think it's safe to say something has gone wrong here.

Also - Sturridge was a wasteful showboat until he moved to Liverpool. He's still a bit of a showboat, but slightly less wasteful.

No Dan, its official. Suarez is the worst ever football player.

I MUST SAY NO MORE ON THIS SUBJECT.

sigh

I have not used goals per shot because Defoe shoots a lot because he has an uncanny ability to get a shot off, even when he has picked up the ball with his back to goal, 20 yards from the penalty area and near the touchline.

when perhaps the better option would be to play the ball sideways/to another player of the same team. Rather than giving it away.

That is what I was saying - he is a great goalscorer - not that he is a great striker in a 451 formation.

Well - if you're agreeing with everyone, what the fuck are you arguing about?

http://www.optasportspro.com/en/about/optapro-blog/posts/2012/blog-assessing-the-performance-of-premier-league-goalscorers.aspx

My argument:
He's not streaky, he's consistently not good enough, but Spurs hang on to him because he may bang in the goals.

Has he ever hit 20 goals a season?

Importantly: Who will Spurs sell out of their current crop of players in a protracted transfer saga this time around?

Defoe, 128, 512, 25.00%
Bent, 107, 404, 26.49%
Sturridge, 44, 242, 18.18%
Suarez, 41, 308, 13.31%
Torres, 84, 419, 20.05%

According to these numbers, Suarez isn't as good as Torres.

How? Has Torres even hit the back of the net whilst wearing a blue shirt?

Furious is still Furious. I did enjoy the 'Where's Corny theme'

I'm wondering why there isn't any discussion of Chelsea flying to Norwich. Just like Arsenal last year. I'm just trying to work out *where *they would fly from that wouldn't make the journey longer. Biggin Hill? All of this points to more money than sense, until of course Spurs do the same.

Trains weren't running and A11 closed. The traffic was, by all accounts, pandemonic. They fly to Gatwick and have special domestic (so no immigration or customs even from East Anglia) private terminal.

The football thread has come to a complete meltdown and pisti isn't even here.

So is Defoe a bit shit or is he shit hot?

He's not been any good since we shipped him out.

I guess if you're a West Ham fan then Defoe is the kind of striker you can aspire to.

He's not been any good since we shipped him out.
Shit on a stick it is #©florentinoperez

I guess if you're a West Ham fan then Defoe is the kind of striker you can aspire to.

That's the sort of answer that David Cameron would have up with.

What the fuck is this balls about Defoe all about?

The only thing I care about was he wasn't good enough to find the onion bag yesterday, END OF!

No lasagne to blame this time round either.

And quite what business an alleged WHU fan is doing defending him (other than troll poorly/yet successful noting the number of responses) I have no idea.

The football thread has come to a complete meltdown and pisti isn't even here.

Get to the point, how many games has Defoe been without scoring?