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• #5502
Chelsea seem to have been polished up alright
But they're a different class of shit.
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• #5503
I luv CFC haterz... Sayonara suckaz... :P
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• #5504
I should've posted this yesterday
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• #5505
They tried to kill Eduardo but failed. as for Cesc.. never, he is just tooo damn good. and RVP will hang around to show that disco diving nonce a touch of class in front of goal.
Dean Ashton was to big for this style of play, shame but it was more down to his body not being made for it. makes you respect Ledley really. that prick does some amazing stuff. he has no right or ability to be doing that job but does, bit like a scouse lawyer
Yeah well congratulations. But you can't polish a turd, can you.
no but you can roll it in Glitter. just look at City
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• #5506
wonder if Ngog will get banned for that dive?
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• #5507
They tried to kill Eduardo but failed. as for Cesc.. never, he is just tooo damn good. and RVP will hang around to show that disco diving nonce a touch of class in front of goal.
Dean Ashton was to big for this style of play, shame but it was more down to his body not being made for it. makes you respect Ledley really. that prick does some amazing stuff. he has no right or ability to be doing that job but does, bit like a scouse lawyer
no but you can roll it in Glitter. just look at City
How many people went apeshit when Adebayor caused some claret on his face, but deep down thought he'd been rightly served? Hmm, silence.
Ashton got to be so big, bcause of the time the great lunk spent in the gym when he was last injured. When WHU bought him he was much slimmer.
I never said I was a Chelsea hater, I just can't stand the fact that like all the ManU fans they assume that they'll win and take losses so badly they have to blame the men in black when things don't go their way. Neither of them a particularly gracious losers. Most fans will freely admit that their team wasn't good enough - like Liverpool(!) and even old 'Arry has admitted when Spurs have been shite, but it's never that way with Chelsea or ManU. Also I find it pathetically ironic that ManU fans spend more time travelling to and from games than they do at the games.
As you may well have guessed, I really fucking hate ManU. In fact, I make a point of supporting whoever they play regardless of the competition.
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• #5508
no but you can roll it in Glitter. just look at City
City are not a glittery turd. More like Emporer's New Clothes. Expensive clothes mind, but don't look good together.
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• #5509
But they're a different class of shit.
Chelsea have only been registered as a top flight club since '87, even then it took them 9yrs to win something
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• #5510
I should've posted this yesterday
Only been posted about 3 times
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• #5511
Once, actually. But its illustrates the point well I think.
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• #5512
Chelsea have only been registered as a top flight club since '87, even then it took them 9yrs to win something
I don't give a rats' knacker when they were registered as a top-flight club, and I'm certainly not a fan, but they did it differently to both Blackburn and City. Blackburn bought the title and City have just thrown a load of money at players who can't lay together. Hughes is not the man for that job. If Mourinho went in there he'd get rid of shithouse pricks like Craig Bellend and develop the team into something special over time.
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• #5513
I don't give a rats' knacker when they were registered as a top-flight club, and I'm certainly not a fan, but they did it differently to both Blackburn and City. Blackburn bought the title and City have just thrown a load of money at players who can't lay together. Hughes is not the man for that job. If Mourinho went in there he'd get rid of shithouse pricks like Craig Bellend and develop the team into something special over time.
Errr, Chelsea have bought titles or did all their players and managers they've 'bought' over the last few years come off the Mercenary Moneygrabbin Cunts Tree? Which is just off Parsons Green btw
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• #5514
Errr, Chelsea have bought titles or did all their players and managers they've 'bought' over the last few years come off the Mercenary Moneygrabbin Cunts Tree? Which is just off Parsons Green btw
'Cos if Everton had been blessed with the same opportunities as Chelsea etc they'd have said "Err, no thanks - we're happy being nearly men"
I think not. Moyes has done an amazing job with the resources that have been made available to him. IMHO a very good manager.
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• #5515
How many people went apeshit when Adebayor caused some claret on his face, but deep down thought he'd been rightly served? Hmm, silence.
Ashton got to be so big, bcause of the time the great lunk spent in the gym when he was last injured. When WHU bought him he was much slimmer.
I never said I was a Chelsea hater, I just can't stand the fact that like all the ManU fans they assume that they'll win and take losses so badly they have to blame the men in black when things don't go their way. Neither of them a particularly gracious losers. Most fans will freely admit that their team wasn't good enough - like Liverpool(!) and even old 'Arry has admitted when Spurs have been shite, but it's never that way with Chelsea or ManU. Also I find it pathetically ironic that ManU fans spend more time travelling to and from games than they do at the games.
As you may well have guessed, I really fucking hate ManU. In fact, I make a point of supporting whoever they play regardless of the competition.
RVP went in to hurt that prick, had he connected it would have been a different story. He has that side to his game.. as did the great DB, but i like that in football, it's the emotions that make it the game it is.
I don't hate Utd, they have a large fan base (like Chelsea now) as they are a brand. and most of those "fans" talk more than understand. real fans were there when they were shit.
But over all UTD play great football. They wouldn't have dominated the prem if it wasn't for that determination to win by any means, i haven't seen many Utd Matches where i believed they were dead and buried. i wish the Arsenal were more like that!
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• #5516
'Cos if Everton had been blessed with the same opportunities as Chelsea etc they'd have said "Err, no thanks - we're happy being nearly men"
I think not. Moyes has done an amazing job with the resources that have been made available to him. IMHO a very good manager.
What's that gotta do with anything? I was highlighing your comment about Blackburn and potentially City buying titles yet you seem to ignore the fact that Chelsea have done exactly that?!
Would all these World class players and Managers go there on £40k a week, would they fuck.
Was watching Ancelotti on MOTD the other day talking about the players, club etc the other day and his intentions and achievement(top of the league) so far and I was laughing! WAC, any of us here could manage a team with those players already there for you. We know how they play, we know the positions they play in. He'd get more respect if he went to a bottom 6 club and took them to the top 3, at Chelsea it's already set up for him - easiest job in the world -
• #5517
Chelsea have only been registered as a top flight club since '87, even then it took them 9yrs to win something
I just love these supporters who claim greatness for their team because their team has never been out of the top flight and who dismiss others as glory hunters.
When Chelsea spent years in the second division, we followed them all over the country. We chased glory. Glory came in winning the second division at Grimsby and if you want to know what glory feels like, watch your team climb out of the mire and ascend like that. That day in Grimsby was worth far more to us all than the day in Bolton 21 years later when we lifted the Premiership for the first time in 50 years. It was touch and go. Only Sheffield Wednesday drawing in (I think) Cardiff, gifted us the title.
We are not a side that has always sat at the top table. Lack of money, unwise building and problems off the pitch saw to that in the 1970s. We used to field teams made up[ entirely of home grown players and if they were any good - like Butch Wilkins - a Big team would snap them up. Even later, Pat Nevin was snapped up by a Big side, Everton and Nigel Spackman by Liverpool. John Hollins to Arsenal was gutting.
In those days, Everton were one of the Big Six. The teams that insisted on breaking away from the league so that they could have more money. Everton were one of the teams that dictated how that was worked out and understandibly are upset that the framework that they put in place is benefitting others and not themselves.
Everton's demise as a big club came with the National Lottery. Everton were mainly funded by the Moores family who got their money from Littlewoods Pools. The lottery saw to that and Everton's hopes. No longer able to buy glory for themselves, Evertonians now bleat about others doing so.
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• #5518
i haven't seen many Utd Matches where i believed they were dead and buried. i wish the Arsenal were more like that!
Champions League final 09 was a truly magnificent game. I was in a pub where grown men cried after giving it billy big bollocks throughout the entire run up to the game. And as for Taggarts' face - priceless!
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• #5519
I just love these supporters who claim greatness for their team because their team has never ......others doing so.
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that had me welling up there Clive.. .emotional... emotional
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• #5520
I just love these supporters who claim greatness for their team because their team has never been out of the top flight and who dismiss others as glory hunters.
When Chelsea spent years in the second division, we followed them all over the country. We chased glory. Glory came in winning the second division at Grimsby and if you want to know what glory feels like, watch your team climb out of the mire and ascend like that. That day in Grimsby was worth far more to us all than the day in Bolton 21 years later when we lifted the Premiership for the first time in 50 years. It was touch and go. Only Sheffield Wednesday drawing in (I think) Cardiff, gifted us the title.
We are not a side that has always sat at the top table. Lack of money, unwise building and problems off the pitch saw to that in the 1970s. We used to field teams made up[ entirely of home grown players and if they were any good - like Butch Wilkins - a Big team would snap them up. Even later, Pat Nevin was snapped up by a Big side, Everton and Nigel Spackman by Liverpool. John Hollins to Arsenal was gutting.
In those days, Everton were one of the Big Six. The teams that insisted on breaking away from the league so that they could have more money. Everton were one of the teams that dictated how that was worked out and understandibly are upset that the framework that they put in place is benefitting others and not themselves.
Everton's demise as a big club came with the National Lottery. Everton were mainly funded by the Moores family who got their money from Littlewoods Pools. The lottery saw to that and Everton's hopes. No longer able to buy glory for themselves, Evertonians now bleat about others doing so.
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We've had this convo/debate before. Clive I respect and admire you for following your club through the shite, we all have, that's what real fans do
The fact is Chelsea's success has been bought - FACT!
Matthew Harding set them off on their way though and worked wonders for Cheslea in terms of stability and investment
Everton's success was nurtured like you say with stability and investment from The Moore's. Although they no longer properly own Littlewoods it's a bit off the mark to say The Lottery fucked them up.What really happened is the Mum(old dear, forget her name) was a MASSIVE Blue and funded the club. When she died, the son(Lord Grantchester) got the inheritance - he doesn't like football and could not give two shites about Everton, hence us being fuckin skint since the mid 90's!Liverpool also fucked us up in '85 by bringing upon the 5yr European ban, causing all our best players to fuck off, when the ban was lifted we found ourselves with no financing and a shit team
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• #5521
that had me welling up there Clive.. .emotional... emotional
That's what Chelsea is, you see. Raw emotion and passion.
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• #5522
Pisti, dear chap.
Every successful team in recent years has only achieved what they have achieved though money and sound management. My point is that one should not decry one team for coming into money more recently. Just because others have had money for longer does not make them any better. Money was the key to their success.
Personally, I think that Notts County could be the most exciting football project. Put money into a bottom tier side and see how to build it up. Sol Campbell was a mistake but it could work. QPR, however, is a joke. Man City will do nothing without a good manager. To get a good manager they need to qualify for the Champions League. Unless they do that, they will fail.
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• #5523
Notts County could be an interesting one but like you say look at QPR. More money than you cunts but without investment(Ecclestone, Briatore & Lakshmi have not actually put much money in) and a decent Manager nothing will happen
Wigan is a nice little success story, shame about the lack of support - saying that did you see how many Fulham took to Wigan at the weekend, 268!! WTF!?! -
• #5524
There's nowt wrong with buying success, it's pretty much the only way these days. I never minded Chelsea getting lucky with Abramovich, thank God it wasn't fucking Tottenham, those cunts are unbearable as they are.
I'm old enough to remember when Chelsea were proper shite, and we're all old enough to remember City in what is now Div 1 and I still call it Div 3, when our local derby game was against fucking Macclesfield. It's not as if Everton have ever been relegated is it, though you should if it wasn't for that bent bastard Hans Seger.
Anyway, Hughes needs to get a grip and soon. I rec kon you can get a good manager without being in the CL, we'll just have to pay him a fortune. Hiddink or Mourinho please.
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• #5525
Notts County could be an interesting one but like you say look at QPR. More money than you cunts but without investment(Ecclestone, Briatore & Lakshmi have not actually put much money in) and a decent Manager nothing will happen
Wigan is a nice little success story, shame about the lack of support - saying that did you see how many Fulham took to Wigan at the weekend, 268!! WTF!?!From what I've seen of Fulham's away support, 268 is a big turnout.
yeah - not nice.
he is looking to make an insurance claim from the fa
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1225907/CHARLES-SALE-Crocked-Dean-Ashton-seek-FAs-millions.html