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It does amuse me how fans refuse to recognise their own players thuggishness but are happy to highlight it in other players and teams.

Any team coached by Mourinho is well versed in the dark arts.

Cheery 'Mario Götze' at some Dortmund fans.

'Grunts'

That's a rather bold claim, have you got the stats to back your statement

Talent alone is not enough but compared to his flawed character and lifestyle you'd wonder for how much longer are we going to label him a "talent".

On Oscar, it's probably just the way he hovers round the edge of the box without committing to a run and wanders around with his head down looking like he got thrashed in the world cup. You're right he does run with the ball and press, last night Willian looked good going forward though.

Has anyone got the stats after 12 games for Derby's record breaking 2007-2008 season?

Has anyone got any stats for the last time Forest were in the top flight? Does the Internet go back that far?

How about their last 12 games so far this season in comparison to Derby's?

No Wellbeck or Giroud, so does Podolski get a start? Of course not, instead Wenger goes with the useless lump that is Sonogo.

Andy demonstrating mikec levels of something the Germans probably have a word for.

Yes!!! Well in. Let's end this now. Leave the whole team and manager out there and start again. I predict a cricket score tonight

Scheisser.

Lol. What an opening 5 minutes

Fuck me. We have score a goal. OMG we have scored, oh wow

Rickie "superfan" Lambert too. Who would have thought it. Maybe this year IS our year?

@FootballCliches on twitter:-

You get the feeling with Sanogo that, once he gets that first goal, he could go on another long barren spell quite easily.

hendo!!!!!

2-1 up against the great Ludogorets. I think that makes us as good as Real Madrid...

Alexis Sanchez is quite good.

Hahaha
Well in Ludogretz. We are as pathetic as we have ever been.
Doesn't change much though if RM win we still need to beat Basel at Anfield. Which we won't. of course

we need one of those big anfield european cup nights against basel

and emre can in midfield PLEASE

There is a lot wrong at the moment. BR needs to make some tough decisions and drop the players that need dropping

So Liverpool showed huge character last night (or so we are told) and managed a point against one of Europe's mammoths. As Rodgers said, their season starts here. Must say, not a very auspicious way to start it.

Mike, dropping himself might be a good place to start

Sanchez goal was a cracker