Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

Black Lion Lane,

Hammersmith,
London W6...

There is a guy who works at Goldmans (I think) with a V12 vantage number plate : 007 spy or something to that effect.

Just because someone can afford a good car doesn't mean that they possess taste in any way.

There is a guy who works at Goldmans (I think) with a V12 vantage number plate : 007 spy or something to that effect.

Porsche is the marque of choice for the officionado.

Just because someone can afford a good car doesn't mean that they possess taste in any way.

Does he call his missus Pussy Galore and his PA Miss Funnyfanny?

WAC.

My dad used his 996 as a daily for a while, it'd be harder with air-cooled, but not impossible.

90s Japanese cars appeal to me about as much as 911s do, tuned Legacys, early EVOs, Supras, Skylines, RX7s, but no matter how tastefully you do it, with maybe the Legacy as an exception, you will always look like a boy racer. Caving to badge snobbery at it's finest, but fuck it.

E39 540i Touring on coilovers and Rotiforms or ADV1s could keep up the class factor, but it's no 993...

The last truly great Aston (and IMO the best looking)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-npX97HVChgA/TpAZxi0zNWI/AAAAAAAAHJQ/1Kew-1AQRtM/s1600/aston-martin-db7-zagato.jpg

http://www.carfani.com/wp-content/pictures/2002-Aston-Martin-DB7-Vantage-Zagato-design.jpg

I'd have a Porsche because I know that it'll start every time.

To all the people who dream about Ferrari's, there's no need to arrive with great pomp and circumstance when you can just arrive.

Besides, I own my dream car as I have pointed out on here many times.

Whatever, have you driven a DB7? Old man car. No fun to hustle.

I'd have a Porsche because I know that it'll start every time.

To all the people who dream about Ferrari's, there's no need to arrive with great pomp and circumstance when you can just arrive.

This.

I'd have a Porsche because I know that it'll start every time.

To all the people who dream about Ferrari's, there's no need to arrive with great pomp and circumstance when you can just arrive.

Quite correct. Decent daily drivers. No supermodel tantrums about oh it's too wet, too cold, too hot.

Just add petrol.

I'd have a Porsche. Would need to be air-cooled though.

Astons leave me absolutely cold, as do Ferraris since the 355.

The 355 is the only Rarri that I would like.

Whatever, have you driven a DB7? Old man car. No fun to hustle.

It's a grand tourer not an out and out sports car, it shouldn't be fun to hustle it should get you and your expensive wardrobe across large distances very quickly, in supreme comfort.

I like the 512TRs Testarossas too....fantastic rear end, wonderful noise. Probably shit to drive, but one has to get one's Miami Vice on from time to time.

Look at the arse on that-arrrrr.

Its been a while since I watched Miami Vice, but it wasn't actually a Ferrari, it was a Corvette that was modded to look like a Fezza due to budget constraints.

Nah - that was the original daytona spider they had in the early episodes. Apparently Ferrari got the hump with them using a replica and gave them a testarossa.

Any 911? Seriously?

If you owned one of those you'd never go anywhere. Agonisingly unreliable and notoriously expensive to maintain and run.

Evolution of the beetle please...

Yes.
It has the engine in the correct end, and within the wheelbase.
It has the name of the man who built the engine on a little brass badge.
It has four twin-choke Weber carburettors.
It doesn't have vicious lift-off oversteer that lands you in a hedge.
It is the most beautiful GT car ever designed,
It has a lovely interior, and everything fits like a glove, more than any other car I have sat in.
It soothes and cossets when you want to go gently, but when you put your foot down it is savagely fast.
People love them, even non car people.
You get let out of side turnings.
It is fundamentally engineered correctly, rather than being engineered fundamentally incorrectly and then developed over 30 or 40 years until it became driveable.

I wouldn't mind a 911 one day. If I had one it would be a 1980s Carrera CS lightweight in white. but I would rather have an 80s Aston V8 any day of the week.

911's also rust like fuck, and are expensive to restore.

Yes.
It has an engine which is as old as the magna carta, and within the Blenheim Palace sized wheelbase.
It has the name of the man who built the engine on a little brass badge. Great. At least Ferdinand was a Doctor.
It has four twin-choke Weber carburettors which are liable to fail and piss petrol all over a hot engine bay.
It doesn't have vicious lift-off oversteer that lands you in a hedge - if you manage to get it started.
It is the most beautiful GT car ever designed. If you really like driving something the size of Berkshire.
It has a lovely interior, and everything fits like a glove, more than any other car I have sat in. I probably need to sit in more.
It soothes and cossets when you want to go gently, but when you put your foot down it is savagely fast for a geriatric.
People love them, even non car people and the are more likely to get keyed.
You get let out of side turnings because you need to be let out. It's not exactly nimble
It is fundamentally engineered correctly because the engineering is from the dark ages as opposed to being being engineered fundamentally incorrectly and then the natural evolution of development over 30 or 40 years until it became driveable.

I wouldn't mind a 911 one day. If I had one it would be a 1980s Carrera CS lightweight in white. but I would rather have an 80s Aston V8 any day of the week if I had no time constraint to worry about.

911's also rust like fuck - less than Ferrari's, but are less expensive to restore than Aston's which are generally found in several tea-chests in Worcester.

Fixed.

but one has to get one's Miami Vice on from time to time.

Would rep if I new how to or gave a shit about repping for that matter as I don't believe your going to feel better about yourself if I did so...

Yes.
It has the engine in the correct end, and within the wheelbase.
It has the name of the man who built the engine on a little brass badge.
It has four twin-choke Weber carburettors.
It doesn't have vicious lift-off oversteer that lands you in a hedge.
It is the most beautiful GT car ever designed,
It has a lovely interior, and everything fits like a glove, more than any other car I have sat in.
It soothes and cossets when you want to go gently, but when you put your foot down it is savagely fast.
People love them, even non car people.
You get let out of side turnings.
It is fundamentally engineered correctly, rather than being engineered fundamentally incorrectly and then developed over 30 or 40 years until it became driveable.

I wouldn't mind a 911 one day. If I had one it would be a 1980s Carrera CS lightweight in white. but I would rather have an 80s Aston V8 any day of the week.

911's also rust like fuck, and are expensive to restore.

EVERYTHING is expensive to restore. Parts costs pail into insignificance when you consider the ticker on the man hours involved in resto's.

Not sure why your hating on Porsche so much. The most historied marque paired with an extreme pursuit of perfection. People aren't hating on Aston as a brand in considering history, only the current line up of photocopies which include a number with a little highlighting for which AM think it appropriate to slap 60% of the originals price tag on top of it's price. However there are people who buy these, so go figure what the clientèle is like (turn around touch the ground no combacksies on Porsche in that regard)

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The values of second hand Aston's also go down faster than an Essex girl...

^Made from finest Albanian steel.

or...

Oh Jesus.

no no no you are all wrong, the car with the most class left is most certainly the
carrera gt
rare enough not to be destroyed to that great an extent by the harrabs