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  • The neighbours would love me parking that thing out the front of the flat!

    They'd like me leaving even more.. bye bye tyres..

    7.4litre engine? they could walk the 100 yards that you would get before running out of petrol and give you a kicking too. I wonder what its actual mpg is, but 7.4 litres of fun for the price of a second hand mondeo?...awesome.

  • And, it's orange.

    opens HSBC Internet Banking portal

  • What do you think that Hemi needs in terms of injector?

    My car cannot be converted to LPG because you cannot get injectors that will keep up, but it might be an option with that orange rocket.

  • From Wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M10

    As the BMW M12, the engine is also one of the most successful engines in racing.[citation needed] Starting with the European Touring Car Championship, it was also used in Formula Two and in the Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft, where it was turbocharged by Paul Rosche according to FIA Group 5 rules.
    The M12 went on to Formula One, winning the 1983 championship for Nelson Piquet and Brabham — something which very few 20 year old road car engine designs accomplish. The same applies for the rise in power: twentyfold from 75 hp (56 kW) to about 1,500 hp (1,100 kW).
    The BMW S14 engine for the first BMW M3 was based upon the M10 block. In the M3, the M10 block design is still winning races today.

    Google away

    PS Top Gear and tiff also disagree with you. Remember that this was the time of qualifying engine and race engines. Also how did the car win the F1 championship?

  • My car cannot be converted to LPG because you cannot get injectors that will keep up, but it might be an option with that orange rocket.

    Yes it can, you just don't know how. Feel free to ask on the correct forum

  • Heh, is it an imaginary person to go with the imaginary car?

    Is there a question you wish to ask? As thats all you seem to do. The if you had piles comment was apt.

    I also don't photograph every second of my life, and don't care what you think but M10/M12 still won F1 unless the past is wrong.

  • From Wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M10

    As the BMW M12, the engine is also one of the most successful engines in racing.[citation needed] Starting with the European Touring Car Championship, it was also used in Formula Two and in the Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft, where it was turbocharged by Paul Rosche according to FIA Group 5 rules.
    The M12 went on to Formula One, winning the 1983 championship for Nelson Piquet and Brabham — something which very few 20 year old road car engine designs accomplish. The same applies for the rise in power: twentyfold from 75 hp (56 kW) to about 1,500 hp (1,100 kW).
    The BMW S14 engine for the first BMW M3 was based upon the M10 block. In the M3, the M10 block design is still winning races today.

    Not being funny but wikipedia is hardly the be-all & end-all of knowledge. The info is only as accurate as the person who wrote it.

    On a similar subject, I have read articles about F1 from this period when they were running 1.5l turbo'd engines. The article said that many teams used "grenade engines' for qualifying on which they just turned the wick up on the turbo to get it to produce maximum power for an out-lap, fast lap and then an in-lap and then it was ready for a skip.

  • A Volvo or Porsche is never far away in this thread:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HjaHS51hk&feature=player_embedded

    "Kermit"

    Chris built this beast up a few years ago. Truly a beautiful and painstaking machine. Sad thing is; after spending a year or more putting her together I seem to remember he sold it almost immediately.

    My car cannot be converted to LPG because you cannot get injectors that will keep up, but it might be an option with that orange rocket.

    I hope your not being even remotely serious about the Charger mate. That would be sacrilegious and more importantly pretty pointless.

  • 7.4litre engine? they could walk the 100 yards that you would get before running out of petrol and give you a kicking too. I wonder what its actual mpg is, but 7.4 litres of fun for the price of a second hand mondeo?...awesome.

    Me receive a kicking from my neighbours.. that's a funny thought.
    I may as well live in a retirement village. They'd not even hear it.

  • Me receive a kicking from my neighbours.. that's a funny thought.
    I may as well live in a retirement village. They'd not even hear it.

    you may laugh but those titanium hip replacements ensure massive leverage...never mess with a pensioner you never know which one is robocop equipped.

  • wooot, after undoing a few bolts, moving a couple things in the pan, the pump came out with tap on input shaft.

    seems the 4L65E have an extra solenoid inside the pump, so had to unclip that as pulled pump up (nothing popped out or dropped off). undid the 5 bolts and viola, smashed pump centre. have to wait till mon, to grab kit from tranny shop.



  • Is there a question you wish to ask? As thats all you seem to do. The if you had piles comment was apt.

    I also don't photograph every second of my life, and don't care what you think but M10/M12 still won F1 unless the past is wrong.

    Right:

    a) Yes, the M10 engine was the basis for the F1 engine, you'll get no arguments from me on that. Your childish infatuation with telling everyone, repeatedly "and you'll never guess- they pee'd on them! LOL! ROFL! ;-)", and your total reliance on information available on the Internet rather than based on articles in the motor-sport press and literature is what I am drawing attention to.
    b) I'll take your bet on the LPG injectors, you find me five that will deliver 600CC/minute.
    c) Did you sell your imaginary car?

  • b) I'll take your bet on the LPG injectors, you find me five that will deliver 600CC/minute.

    I assume you're running a standard inlet manifold? Could this be modified in any way to have a pair of injectors on each inlet? Or there's always the option of getting some ITB's which will need modifying to fit anyway so adding an extra injector mounting won't be much extra work. Of course if you're going down that route then you're going to need an aftermarket ECU, and then you might as well increase the turbo, use a fmic and change the exhaust.

    I've not looked at a T5 for very long so haven't really had the chance to investigate any further. I know of a few people who're using two injectors for each inlet, their reasoning was the cost and also the way that the fuel was spread in the inlet.

  • You could use the later ME7 intake manifold I suppose, and drill it for 5 more injectors/TIG in the bungs, but it would all be a massive pain in the arse when you could just use E85.

    ITB's are cool, but again the reason to fabricate a manifold using them would not be to save money by using LPG!

  • But with ITB's you could go even faster...

  • True, and also turbo ITB manifolds look badass.

  • Carbon trumpets would be nice, but pointless on a turbo manifold as they'll be hidden. Fecking lush on a NA engine

  • You say that, but:

  • Perspex face? Show off.

  • You should see the rest of the car

  • Not being funny but wikipedia is hardly the be-all & end-all of knowledge. The info is only as accurate as the person who wrote it.

    On a similar subject, I have read articles about F1 from this period when they were running 1.5l turbo'd engines. The article said that many teams used "grenade engines' for qualifying on which they just turned the wick up on the turbo to get it to produce maximum power for an out-lap, fast lap and then an in-lap and then it was ready for a skip.

    True about wiki, the prefered term was qualifying engine, all it did was a warm up lap, hot lap or two and then back to the bits. Engines replaced so 1500bhp became 800 for the race. Still amazing for a road block.

  • Right:

    a) Yes, the M10 engine was the basis for the F1 engine, you'll get no arguments from me on that. Your childish infatuation with telling everyone, repeatedly "and you'll never guess- they pee'd on them! LOL! ROFL! ;-)", and your total reliance on information available on the Internet rather than based on articles in the motor-sport press and literature is what I am drawing attention to.
    b) I'll take your bet on the LPG injectors, you find me five that will deliver 600CC/minute.
    c) Did you sell your imaginary car?

    Hola,

    A) No, from the internet but the press, the high mileage blocks were left outside to rust before being machined and its written in quite a few of the books that I've read (occasional pictures there to) tell the story to accelerate the aging process. No LOL ROFL.

    B) The injectors, have you spoken to any automotive supplier? Or are we going on internet?

    C) No, turned up test drove it went on about the mods. so doubt it but have another on sunday. She seemed more knowledgeable when we talked on the phone about the mods done to the cars cooling system to prevent further hg issues.

  • I've not looked at a T5 for very long so haven't really had the chance to investigate any further. I know of a few people who're using two injectors for each inlet, their reasoning was the cost and also the way that the fuel was spread in the inlet.

    Is the easiest way, as mentioned, improving fuel spread.

  • skoda?

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