Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

No contest. Pure class vs a car that was outdated even when it was new and a very hideous 4x4

I had one of them Toyotas

:(

srsly? You tried a specialist like Adrian Flux?

Srsly? They have never returned anything like a reasonable quote on any occasion I have called them. Don't know of anyone who found them to be the value they purport to be.

Sopa. Until your 25 or a millionaire your gonna have to go with something pretty boring really. The pan of youth.

That said I haven't found insurance to be any cheaper in my late twenties, I'm just wealthier.

Polo estate can't be expensive to insure.

I'm back to the drawing board for a while.
Just saw a Alpina 5 series touring, from germany, full race kit, in nottingham.
Was lovely.

Having driven a T5 transporter all weekend- I'm sort of tempted by one of those with a camper thing in the back.

Not on a 3k budget.

Tiny bootspace in the polo estate.

How about an old passat? the 1.8 petrol is the same as the golf GTi but cheaper to insure. Quick enough and pain cave big on the inside.

well brum.

Really tempted by one of these at the moment for general DIY and bike hauling duties....

I wish, on a daily basis as I go to get more wood/haul stuff to the tip, that I had bought a Ute.

Goes to eBay searching for one

I'd get one of these -

Cheaper as nobody wants a Skoda. You have to pay scene tax on VW stuff

I'd take ABS over airbags any day of the week- avoid the accident, then you don't need to mitigate the accident.

(bit late but) ^this
airbags are only as a supplimentry system to the seatbelts. stop you whipping forward in a crash. obviously they are useful but [good driving and] seatbelts are far more important. its a mix of about 85%-15% seatbelts to airbags in levels of protection to the driver. im boring myself now, but thought id throw in my 2 cents. (worked for Nissan designing their safety systems)

@ all, thanks for the help- I'm going to go back to the thinking stage and just decide slowly.
I'm probably pissing off to cumbria this summer to work, so hopefully my budget at the end will be a bit better.

@chris- its more the arguments, currently living at the parents house- and its not worth it.
(and the ludicrous insurance).

-I have a friend who's got a mate who's got a garage, so might ask him to ask his mate... and see if I can get the golf fixed for less.

I'm sure the air-bags thing would succumb to reasoned debate- it's not like we're making it up afterall.

Number of competition/racing vehicles with an air-bag=zero.

They have a six point harness that keeps them away from the wheel, and a roll cage to keep the outside away from them, but the point is that bags were originally introduced due to the American market, where they didn't (typically) put their seatbelt on.

The insurance part is a bummer, no question about that

Anyone going to Goodwood Revival?

yep

Sweet, going with Mrs G and the fam, Friday.

LOADS doing revival here this year.

(not that we'll see BRM there anyway, hidden away.)

I'd love to go to the revival again, if anyone has a spare ticket let me know.

Maybe, with da scooter tottling round the inside, means that I get to avoid the q's. to get in.

What is the love of pick ups? The rear area is unsecure, stuff gets wet.

Is it the america pick up thing?

I love pick ups-
when i was a kid in the states we had this for a year:

that model- not that exact car- same color though.

No particular love for them- would just be useful right now.

As it is I am ruining my 850 using it as a fast van, with a leather lined loadbed.

I love pick ups-
when i was a kid in the states we had this for a year:

that model- not that exact car- same color though.

There is something very american about a pick up, even the four seater ones.

Did it have the gun rack?

One of these is what you want

Takes up 4 car park spaces.