Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

Hard not to recommend a Golf GTI. Insurance might be an issue with no NCB. Best thing really is to go to a few dealers and try them out to see what you like the feel of.

I mentioned a few pages back about my colleague getting a Cupra 290 with insurance rolled in. Just checked and his 2yr lease is £400p/m all in.

Also thought I saw a 6 series with 4 doors today. Just checked and it's true....

If I was shopping in that category I'd buy a Mini Countryman Cooper S...

Also thought I saw a 6 series with 4 doors today. Just checked and it's true....

Utterly wrong, also saw one about an hour or so ago. Also fucking huge

But a little while later seeing a Talbot Sunbeam Lotus in Black with Silver stripes and mahOOOOsive spot lights was the perfect antidote.

Much like this

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Auto Audios in Park Royal right? You'd recommend them?

Seriously though, what is it?

A "sporty" 5 series?

Maybe I'm getting old, but what is with all these random numbers? 3, 5, 7 (and 8) was fine.

Curious to see what the 9 series will be like. A LWB 8 series? Or maybe a 7 series coupé?

Jesus I joke, but there is going to be a 4 door 8 series.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/19/bmw-debuts-4-door-8-series-gran-coupe-with-entry-price-around-86000.html

hell yeah

I don't quite get what a 2 / 4 series is. Is a 2 the old 'not hatchback' 1 series and the 4 a slightly better looking 3 series? They both look about the same size as the others.

The latest Z4 is as ugly as sin too, not to mention that it’s about 50% bigger than the (imo) beautiful original.

For 15-20k?? You mad bro.

M235i - sure... @Tenderloin - this look okay.

Also, hatchback if interested...

Remembered that some states have a sort of checks for emissions, and maybe others are a little stricter but nothing like an UK MOT.

The 4 series is the new 3 series coupé...

…except when it has 4 doors. Which is why they got rid of the coupé line from the 3 series.

No doubt soon they will make a 2/3 door 3 series.

The 2 series is sort of a revival of the 02 series... I think.

^ This.

I currently have a 4 Series Gran Coupe which is the 4 door version of a 2 door version of a 4 door saloon.

All this BMW talk is boring. So Kei Cars. Those little japanese cars that seem popular.

So have had a few beats, cappucinos and cuores but never an autozam AZ1. Midengined and Gullwing doors make it great- FACT

Think that the front end does look alot like an RS200 with and f4o esque rear

Here is Jay lenos take: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/car-design/a22652309/jay-leno-autozam-az-1/

Yeah I’d been looking at those, 3 series and Merc cls 350 (but think this is a bit bigger?). I think I like the A-class aesthetically the most but probably need to test some out.

What do you want it for?

The new A Class (not in budget if you want to buy) is nice but the previous version has a shit interior.

The BMWs will be more fun / engaging to drive as the they’re 6 cylinder, rear wheel drive.

If you don’t care about that, something like the focus might be better value.

I just had a look at Autocar, of the current crop of hatchbacks I'd have a Golf, and inevitably I'd have whatever the fastest one is, because reasons.

I find it hard to be interested in modern cars though, although I do keep considering swapping the C55 for a C63 I suppose.

Clio V6?

Clio V6?

Not much in the way of a boot, what with the engine?

Maybe I just keep my powder dry for the Taycan...

Audi A3 SLine?

Skoda fabia vrs or Monte Carlo if the insurance is too high on the vrs

And if you were spending that much on a golf you could almost get a 5cyl rs3...

Anyone know a site that will give me a price for these? Just finding "POA", which is extremely irritating and (if there's any other option) guarantees that I won't "A":

Audi A3 SLine?

If you do, I'd try and choose one with no sunroof or tow bar attachment/option. (Anecdotal based on a couple of the many AA men who charged and/or replaced my mum's battery, but they do see a lot of cars)