Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • my mate and i have stopped sharing cars as 1/2 a day isn't quite enough. sharing a race car would mean alternate weekends.

    if anyone wants to come along as a passenger in the world's slowest racing car, they are more than welcome. my next day is the GP circuit at brands! something that i have wanted to do since i was a boy. def bucket list track.

  • 325 - spendy, but not as bad as i've seen from other tdos. fancy popping down for a session?

  • I know Jemery Clarkson says this, but it's not actually true, it's just a fun soundbyte. All engine positions have their drawbacks, I'd say a rear engine in a sports car is much less a flawed starting point than one hanging out over the front axle.

    I think the key argument would be that the Cayman never seems to be made (or at least not publicised) in a comparable spec to the 911. It's as if they can't afford for their mid-engined sports car to be faster than their signature rear-engined car because of all the effort put into arguing the rear-engine layout's case.

    Assuming Porsche have actually never built a comparable pair, has anyone modified a Cayman to be comparable and testable against a 911?

    Cayman 981 GTS: 3.8L, 385PS
    911 991 GTS: 3.8L, 430PS

  • It's as if they can't afford for their mid-engined sports car to be faster than their signature rear-engined car because of all the effort put into arguing the rear-engine layout's case.

    Mid engined, bit faster than a 911.

    All manufacturers have a hierarchy, Porsche's isn't there to convince the world rear engined is faster than mid-engined, it's just there to sell a 911 for more money than a Cayman.

    Even when they released the 911 they had a mid-engined car that was quicker :

    And then there's this:

    Anyway, point is, Porsche don't argue the rear engined layout is better than any other, it's just how they do the 911.

  • How many different engine/gearbox formats have you owned and driven and what is your favourite?

  • Carrera GT and the Le Mans cars don't count, they're in completely different price brackets.

    What's the second one?

  • 914!

  • note the page number:

  • 904 It's in a different price bracket too, maybe a couple of mil.

    Of course they count, they count more, they are Porsche saying 'we're going to build the fastest car we can and it's going to be mid-engined'. If they wanted to prove rear engined was faster they wouldn't do that, cos it proves the opposite.

  • Yesterday I saw this driving through London.

    Rocking horse poop or what :O

  • Did it have a hipster in it?

  • Or this guy?

    (In my IG feed, yesterday)

  • Didnt see who was driving it! Was just amazed to see it rolling down the street. Had a couple G-wagon bodyguards too lol

  • Oh, that page:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYIcc9IBZj4

    I love the opening sequence.

  • I see what you did there...

  • This was in the in the car park of my apartment building the other day.

    The noise is insane.


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  • Parking fail.

  • This guy can park how the fuck he likes.

  • Yup

  • Correction: This guy can park his re-skinned Enzo how the fuck he likes.

  • @jaw - This is Zonda guy, no?

  • Yup

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