Photography: Camera sensor size difference

28mm is wide on a FF sensor (like a 5D)
50mm is a standard field of view on a FF sensor (like the 5D)

28mm is a standard field of view on a cropped sensor (like a 550D)
50mm is a slightly telephoto field of view on a cropped sensor (like the 550D)

If you are nice to me I can sling a 28mm and 50mm onto a 5D and 550D and shoot a picture later on if you want, might give you an idea.

Oh I know about the crop factor the only thing I'm wondering is whether a 28 will be wide enough for groups and landscapes.

that's what he said to me and that is why i'm posting from a very large hole in Tynans cellar clad only in the discarded carpaces of long dead cockraoches

If I hear anymore shit from you I will remove the internet connection from the cellar.

The 5D is plenty enough to do what you want it to do, the biggest drawback for me is that the LCD have a slight green tint, but I never use it anyway, and even though it can go up to 1600 ISO and look very clean, it doesn't go up as far as 6400ISO on the newer model.

point being, the 5D have been around for almost half a decades, yet still work beautifully and does exactly what I want it to do.

handle them both, see which you like, and buy

Cheers ed answer I wanted! You had a 28 1.8 didn't you? How was it on the 5d?

I have a cheap Canon 28 F/2.8, Pentax SMC 50mm F/1.4 (with adaptor), and a cheapo 28-80mm zoom lens for general everyday work.

I don't know what to says about those lens frankly, just that it does what I wanted it to do.

ISO 1600, 28mm blah blah, all that bell and whistle;

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2373/3007682321_67e032a7dd_b.jpg

you geeks and your cameras.
just as well they don't do NJS ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAaZZQhuyMo

trailer for new episode of house (have never seen it) pointed out to me by a guy on my course,
the whole thing has been shot on 5D MKII.
the DOF right at the beginning=stiff.

video isnt my game but you have to admit this is going to allow for some amazing stuff to happen.

Oh I know about the crop factor the only thing I'm wondering is whether a 28 will be wide enough for groups and landscapes.

Hey Spenceey,
I'm just putting together some pics for you but I also got a, tatty but optically fine, 35mm f2 for £50 to go with the kit, in my mind a perfect 1st lens*

*has been frequently wrong...

I should get pix to you in the next 30 mins or so (Giro allowing:-)

Sounds great to me mate ill happily take the 35 as well.

Sounds great to me mate ill happily take the 35 as well.

^^ Pm'd with pics:-)

550D then, faster AF innit.

He does pedopgraphy.

From the bushes.

Definitely the 5D then. If you did sports photography or something a 550D would be better, but the full frame sensor is better for landscapes and the IQ slightly superior.

I quite like wide angle lenses, for indoors and landscapes, would a 28mm be good enough for landscapes as well as indoor groups or is it maybe not as wide for landscapes?

Most of my photography so far has been portraits and landscapes and general documenting of life.

Is also like a 50 as a standard keep on the camera most of the time lens.

Do you think the 28 and 50 would be the best choices here or is it worth going for a zoom over both these lengths?

Definitely the 5D then. If you did sports photography or something a 550D would be better, but the full frame sensor is better for landscapes and the IQ slightly superior.

I think the IQ on the 5D is noticeably better, although saying that the 550D is still excellent quality itself.

5D better stills camera, better quality video, better in low light.

550D excellent stills camera, better video options (frame rates etc).

I think the IQ on the 5D is noticeably better, although saying that the 550D is still excellent quality itself.

5D better stills camera, better quality video, better in low light.

550D excellent stills camera, better video options (frame rates etc).

Take it you mean the new 5D yeah? Since the old one didn't do video.

He did but video aside everything else applies to the 5D Mk I. It has better IQ and low light performance than the 550D or any cropped sensor Canons. It's all about the sensor size.

Yep, just as Fox said.

Thanks for your help guys. Camera should be turning up today fingers crossed.

On a side note (maybe going off topic here) I've been looking at flashes for the 5D, would you guys recommend anything? Since the canon one retails at about £300, and that seems a little steep for a flash, or is it worth going for a 3rd party one that still offers ttl?

I tend to use old flash/mirror to my advantage.

bit of a thread dredge.

I've got a Nikon D40 and i currently haven't upgraded anything. I use it for general shizzle and photos of my uni work etc.
I used to use an old Praktica, 35mm film camera. I really enjoy taking manual shots and have been trying to do this more and more on my D40. I've got a Lomo LC-A too, but its sooo expensive to run!

I'm thinking of buying a Nikon 35mm 1.8 prime lens. Ok, so I won't have the advantage of the zoom but it should make me a bit more creative in composure etc? Will the focus ring be much sturdier than my stock lens - which is crap, its so hard to manual focus with it, its actually loose!
Will I notice a massive difference in image quality? Is it worth £170ish outlay or is there something better? I think I need this lens as the D40 is a cropped sensor camera and its an AF-S and so lots of other lenses wouldn't auto focus (when needed) ? Basically, is it a good idea to buy this as a general purpose / main lens?

Also, does anybody know how i can get film from my LC-A processed cheaply? £7 a go is a tad expensive. I don't need actual prints and I can get cheap expired film on ebay, but its the processing which is soo expensive!

At home?

£7 a go is pretty cheap.

it's only expensive if you go through films as if they were beer and pie.

slow down, only take picture that you think it's worth it, and then you'll get your money worth.

get the 35mm F/1.8 if you can afford it, it's advantage is that the crop factor will be closer to a 50mm field of view on a film camera.

It wont fit Lomo, Ed ;-)

YouTube- Developing C41 Color Film At Home

and so on...

that doesn't look too difficult, I used to develop black n white at college a few years ago. How much would it cost to get everything he uses there?

I'd try eBay. Once you know what you are looking for.
Search online and make a list.
Often people sell their whole kit plus chemistry for peanuts.

will do, cheers.

I suppose all I need is a devloping tank, a couple film spools and chemicals?